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Replace Rakell with Lindholm and you've got a promising start. Jets need a TOP4 D in this exchange more than anything.

Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:17 a.m.

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Quoting: justaBoss

Replace Rakell with Lindholm and you've got a promising start. Jets need a TOP4 D in this exchange more than anything.

Yeah, I was half thinking that. What would you think needs to be added to Hampus? I don't think I could do very much, but maybe something like Hampus+B prospect?

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:18 a.m.

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Yeah, I was half thinking that. What would you think needs to be added to Hampus? I don't think I could do very much, but maybe something like Hampus+B prospect?

Could the Jets guarantee Hampus re-signs tho? Hampus + Lundestrom seems like a fair deal if they can get an extension

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:19 a.m.

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That NSH trade is fine, but I don't see NSH making it. They don't need another LHD (and have quite a few in Larsson's age range) and are weaker on RHD at both the NHL and AHL level. So for that reason, I don't see them trading Allard for a LHD. Though I could see NSH trading Allard at some point as it doesn't look like he has a future in NSH.

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.

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Could the Jets guarantee Hampus re-signs tho? Hampus + Lundestrom seems like a fair deal if they can get an extension

Can they guarantee Laine re-signs? Do they need a left shot as much as a right shot?

Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.

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Can they guarantee Laine re-signs? Do they need a left shot as much as a right shot?

Laine would be an RFA, he has no choice but to stay. Trading For Hampus would be like when the Sens traded for Duchene with less than 2 years left

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:22 a.m.

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Yeah, I was half thinking that. What would you think needs to be added to Hampus? I don't think I could do very much, but maybe something like Hampus+B prospect?

Dunno. I've been thinking something like this

Anaheim Ducks

Patrik Laine
Kristian Vesalainen
Mathieu Perreault
Sami Niku

Winnipeg Jets

Hampus Lindholm
Danton Heinen
Isac Lundeström
David Backes
2021 1st round pick

Obviously if Lindholm declines to re-sign with the Jets in two years time, they'll be f*cked no matter what. But this way the both teams would cover some weaknesses from each other...

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.

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Could the Jets guarantee Hampus re-signs tho? Hampus + Lundestrom seems like a fair deal if they can get an extension

I'd probably do that. Good question re: signing Hampus. I think, given that they'd have first crack at extending him and could offer him 8 years. Think that's a risk they'd have to take to get him, tbh.

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.

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How tall is he btw? Last I heard about the Jets is they have a ton of D under 6’

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.

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Quoting: villenash

That NSH trade is fine, but I don't see NSH making it. They don't need another LHD (and have quite a few in his Larsson's age range) and are weaker on RHD at both the NHL and AHL level. So for that reason, I don't see them trading Allard for a LHD. Though I could see NSH trading Allard at some point as it doesn't look like he has a future in NSH.

Yeah, I was just trying to flip Larsson TBH. The Ducks RD prospect pool is much improved, so I'm not as concerned about it anymore...just too many guys (Guhle/Djoos/Curran/Mahura) that probably deserve some icetime, and not enough spots.

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.

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How tall is he btw? Last I heard about the Jets is they have a ton of D under 6’

6'3''.

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:27 a.m.

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Quoting: justaBoss

Dunno. I've been thinking something like this

Anaheim Ducks

Patrik Laine
Kristian Vesalainen
Mathieu Perreault
Sami Niku

Winnipeg Jets

I'm just not sold on Niku and Vesalainen being anything more than Heinen/Lundestrom to give up a 1st in that deal. If it were a 2nd instead, I'd be fine with it.

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:29 a.m.

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I'm just not sold on Niku and Vesalainen being anything more than Heinen/Lundestrom to give up a 1st in that deal. If it were a 2nd instead, I'd be fine with it.

I'd agree it's a 2nd if Backes weren't included, but there's a reason why he's there.

ANA could make it a lottery protected pick if necessary, but I do feel like Jets' ask for Laine must be sky high.

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.

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I'm just not sold on Niku and Vesalainen being anything more than Heinen/Lundestrom to give up a 1st in that deal. If it were a 2nd instead, I'd be fine with it.

I think Vesalainen and Lundestrom have a similar ceiling at this point but one is a winger and one is a centre. As for Heinen, probably not worth much considering Donato got a 3rd and similar players like Duclair, AA, Kahun aren’t getting picked up on the open market. Niku is probably a 3rd pairing guy. As for Lindholm, tough to trade him but you guys have Fowler, Larsson, Mahura, Lacombe and many others

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.

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I mean, the Jets are also dumping Perreault here...But yeah, I'd say the asking price is likely going to be crazy.

Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:32 a.m.

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I mean, the Jets are also dumping Perreault here...But yeah, I'd say the asking price is likely going to be crazy.

Tbh I dare say that Perreault > Backes.

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:36 a.m.

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Tbh I dare say that Perreault > Backes.

100%, and I wouldn't disagree on that for a second, my point is more that there's no real point in acquiring Perreault, and that his addition to the trade shouldn't swing a pick from a 2nd to a 1st.

Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:39 a.m.

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100%, and I wouldn't disagree on that for a second, my point is more that there's no real point in acquiring Perreault, and that his addition to the trade shouldn't swing a pick from a 2nd to a 1st.

I'd say that even if you dropped both Perreault and Backes from the exchange the Jets will still demand a lottery protected first rounder. They can't take the risk of Lindholm not signing, hence they need to maximize the value immediately.

With the conditional picks pending the re-signing being banned at the new CBA, Jets' hands are quite tied on this matter I'd wager.

Oct. 16, 2020 at 10:46 a.m.

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Laine looks to be way too expensive for my taste. We shouldn’t be giving up some of our best prospects rn.

Oct. 16, 2020 at 11:06 a.m.

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