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Hamilton

Created by: DD67
Team: 2016-17 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 14, 2016
Published: Nov. 14, 2016
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
PIT
  1. Elliott, Brian
  2. Hamilton, Dougie
  3. Hamilton, Freddie
  4. McDonald, Mason
  5. 2017 3rd round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Fleury, Marc-André ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Jarry, Tristan
  3. Määttä, Olli
  4. 2017 1st round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
1st becomes a 2nd if PIT misses the playoffs and becomes a 2018 first if they are a lottery team
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2017
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2018
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2019
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$73,000,000$69,750,416$0$940,000$3,249,584
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Sheary, Conor
$667,500$667,500 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 9
Hörnqvist, Patric
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Hagelin, Carl
$1,875,000$1,875,000
LW
UFA - 3
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Kessel, Phil
$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
Kunitz, Chris
$3,850,000$3,850,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Bonino, Nick
$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Rust, Bryan
$640,000$640,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Wilson, Scott
$625,000$625,000
LW
UFA - 2
Cullen, Matt
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Fehr, Eric
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Kühnhackl, Tom
$625,000$625,000
RW
UFA - 2
Hamilton, Freddie
$612,500$612,500
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Dumoulin, Brian
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
Murray, Matt
$628,333$628,333 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
G
UFA - 1
Daley, Trevor
$3,300,000$3,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
Hamilton, Dougie
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 5
Cole, Ian
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Schultz, Justin
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
Elliott, Brian
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Pouliot, Derrick
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Dupuis, Pascal
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Nov. 14, 2016 at 4:30 p.m.
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JuniorGM
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.
Nov. 14, 2016 at 5:03 p.m.
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Sqm918
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Bad deal for pens
Nov. 14, 2016 at 5:13 p.m.
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DD67
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Quoting: JuniorGM
So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Elliott's not really working out. Better or worse MAF is consistently league average. I think both D Men would be better off in the new team's system rather than their current ones.
Nov. 14, 2016 at 5:14 p.m.
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DD67
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Bad deal for pens


Getting the relief from MAF in and of itself makes the deal worth it. Upgrading the defense is the cherry on top.
Nov. 14, 2016 at 5:15 p.m.
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Quoting: DD67
Quoting: JuniorGM
So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Elliott's not really working out. Better or worse MAF is consistently league average. I think both D Men would be better off in the new team's system rather than their current ones.


I don't think Calgary's "activate the d-men in the offensive zone" system works for Maata any better than Pittsburgh's.
Nov. 15, 2016 at 2:22 a.m.
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TrickyBeans66
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One rumor and everyone assumes Hamilton is going to the Pens.
Nov. 15, 2016 at 9:20 a.m.
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Quoting: JuniorGM
So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.
Nov. 15, 2016 at 9:41 a.m.
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Quoting: IgorKutchakokov
Quoting: JuniorGM
So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.


Yup lets use a 12 game sample size instead of the last 3 years in which Elliott has had better numbers.

Last 3 seasons:
Elliot- .929
MAF- .919

11 games this year:
Elliot- .882
MAF- .910
Nov. 15, 2016 at 3:18 p.m.
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IgorKutchakokov
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.


Yup lets use a 12 game sample size instead of the last 3 years in which Elliott has had better numbers.

Last 3 seasons:
Elliot- .929
MAF- .919

11 games this year:
Elliot- .882
MAF- .910


And the fact Jarry is thrown in?? No value to that?
Nov. 15, 2016 at 4:14 p.m.
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DD67
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Quoting: IgorKutchakokov
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.


Yup lets use a 12 game sample size instead of the last 3 years in which Elliott has had better numbers.

Last 3 seasons:
Elliot- .929
MAF- .919

11 games this year:
Elliot- .882
MAF- .910


And the fact Jarry is thrown in?? No value to that?


In all honesty swapping the G prospects is more about keeping the two clubs' pipelines flowing. The Flames need a prospect who'll be ready sooner rather than later. Jarry's trajectory has always been to take over for Flower. No reason to change that now. The Penguins don't need another young stud goalie for the foreseeable future. So they'll take the younger guy from Calgary who'd otherwise clog up their AHL net (which now belongs to Jarry).
Nov. 15, 2016 at 4:24 p.m.
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DD67
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Quoting: JuniorGM
So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.


Yup lets use a 12 game sample size instead of the last 3 years in which Elliott has had better numbers.

Last 3 seasons:
Elliot- .929
MAF- .919

11 games this year:
Elliot- .882
MAF- .910


That's all situations. Even strength it's .929 for Elliott and .926 for Fleury (2012/13 through 2015/16 so I'm not even including Elliott's poor start this year). On the PK they're still similar with Fleury at .900 sv% to Elliot's .895. Fleury has almost 60% more 4v5 TOI than Elliott to boot.

They are not drastically different from each other in terms of performance. But Fleury has established that he can be a team's #1 goalie and sustain those numbers. This is Elliott's chance to do so and he hasn't capitalized on it yet.
 
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