Caps gonna be a problem with so many ELCs

Best case is Mika signs something like crosby or Draisaitl Kapoor signs a bridge and fox goes long term but at like 6-7m.

You might not get a 1st & Barbashev for Buchnivich.

Kreider has to be moved.

The way this sounded to me:

you might not win a lottery tomorrow at 5:47 PM

You will never get Barbashev and a 1st for Buchnevich. Never in a million years lmao. Barby already plays like a 3C. While Buch has a decent middle 6 scoring, Buch isn’t even worth a first by himself.

IMO if BUF or FLA are terrible again the Rangers should try to package some of these sick prospects into acquiring Eichel or Barkov. Cause finding roster spots on this team will be very hard. A very nice problem to have but still a problem.

I'd recommend looking a little further into other players than overvaluing your own.

I agree but the chances they do that are slim regardless of how they perform. Those guys are what keep them afloat at all.

What was the point. You have to give away one of your young stars in DeAngelo and more like Howden to get Dvorak. Not a good trade for NY. Also, the Blues aren't giving away a 1st for Buchnevich and Barbashev on top of it. There is a world where the Blues aren't good so they won't do that.

Take out barbashev. Buch for a first works

since you really wanna bring it up. That is not worth a First round pick.

as I said right before this comment, not on any world is that worth a first round pick.

Cute of you not to show his most recent season but when he played crap minutes with below average producers. Those stats aren't even bad so I don't know what it is your going on about.

They can say what they want, it's fair value for Buch. Coyotes trade is good for both teams. NYR need a top 6 center and Dvorak's contract is really good.

It's just my opinion but I really don't like the Yotes trade. You gave away 3 players 25 or under for Dvorak which you don't really need. And its not like Dvorak is a superstar. I think DeAngelo could reach Dvorak's ceiling and higher as he gets older and near his prime. I would be fine if you threw Krieder in there and maybe get back a pick but DeAngelo out of all people is not the move. Plus, Kreider is your 3rd line center making 6 mil. You could flip him for someone just as good making less money or give him away for the defenseman you just lost.

You don't base a trade on 1 SEASON idiot. what are you smoking?

No you are a rangers homer, and I just showed his most recent stats and guess what he is not worth a first round pick. He's a Middle 6 Forward and you want a 1st round pick for him. I know they got a lot for Kapanen in Toronto, but Buchnevich isn't even on a Kapanen level. You see the stats they are DECENT. NOT AMAZING. Which makes him not worth a first. That's could fetch you a second by itself no one is going to pay you a first round pick for Buch there are so many better option to get than buch for a first round pick. And he didn't play crap minutes, his performance made him play the crap minutes. And below average producers? Buch is about the Average producer range. You are looking at a whopping 952 Minutes. You know how small that sample size is compared to everyone else. You aren't going to get paid a first round pick one 952 f*cking minutes of production. You are going to base it on at least the past 3 f*cking years of production. Nice try but your small time ideas doesn't work. Anyone with half a brain knows not to use only one year of analytics for trades. It's fine when you are doing comparisons for that season. But not when you are doing trade value.

1 Year Wonders have gone so wrong. You are looking at 1 952 Minutes, and the only reason you look at those 952 minutes was because his production was beefed because he was only good when he had a certain players that included Zibanejad, Chytil, Panarin, and Adam Fox even Chris Kreider on the ice at the time. When he didn't have any of those players his averages dumped down to below average. So you want to talk about value here, you are gonna have to use 4 years of analytics to even remotely get something close to that. I could name players in the draft I would rather have than Buchnevich for a First round pick.

Oh I understand, but considering the depth on the Rangers defense and how Gauthier and Howden haven't cemented a spot in our lineup this trade makes us better.

Not really. You need DeAngelo for the future and I don't want my 3rd line winger making more than 4 mil.

We really don't. Dvorak is a top 6 center btw.

I just want to interrupt for a second. Brady Skjei netted a 1st for the Rangers. By your logic, he wouldn't have even fetched a 2nd.

As Islesforthecup said, take out barbashev and you got a fair trade in terms of value. That being said, it's not a trade either the Blues or Rangers should make together.

Also, you're both homers.

By my logic? Carolina didn't need the first round pick, they wanted to win now, Skjei for a first everyone knows he wasn't worth that and they overpaid. We can all see that so it's really irrelevant he was overpaid, but Buchnevich is a MIDDLE 6 Forward that gets carried, that's different from Skjei deal because 1 they are in 2 different positions and RD costs more market wise because of the amount of RD talent in the league. These 2 teams never have worked and I'm not doubting that, but that's what I was getting at their is no chance in the world Blues pay a first round pick for a middle 6 player, we want a top goal scorer only way we part with a first.