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Getting two SUPERSTARS

Created by: Sid_the_kid_875948
Initial Creation Date: Dec 3, 2020
Published: Dec 3, 2020 at 7:32
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
According to this article written by hockey writers, they were citing Athletics Scott Powers as the assessor of Chicago's top 4 value. He values Kane as a 1st + two 2nd'sor a 1st and an A prospect
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Granlund, Mikael3$1,350,000
Trades
PIT
  1. Kane, Patrick ($3,000,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. Légaré, Nathan
Additional Details:
2024 1st round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. McDonagh, Ryan ($2,000,000 retained)
TBL
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. Zohorna, Radim
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Both 24 and dunn will probably want more than
PIT
  1. 2023 7th round pick (ANA)
to any team
ANA
  1. Sceviour, Colton
  2. 2023 4th round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Nichushkin, Valeri
COL
  1. Lafferty, Sam
  2. 2022 5th round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (DET)
to any team
DET
  1. Rodrigues, Evan
  2. Ceci, Cody
PIT
  1. Caamano, Nicholas
Additional Details:
tell me if i need to add
DAL
  1. McCann, Jared
Additional Details:
tell me if i need to add
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
PIT
DET
PIT
PIT
WSH
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2023
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,412,500$0$1,062,500$87,500
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
CHI
Kane, Patrick
$7,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Granlund, Mikael
$1,350,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Jankowski, Mark
$700,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
DAL
Caamano, Nicholas
$738,333
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
$4,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
PIT
Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
PIT
Poulin, Samuel
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 3
PIT
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
$863,333
LD
RFA - 2

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Dec 3, 2020 at 7:37
#1
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U probably need all you're picks to get kane with that package and maybe still they don't accept.
Dec 3, 2020 at 7:38
#2
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If that trade gets you Kane with retention then every team in the league would have Kane and that goes twice for McDonagh with retention
Dec 3, 2020 at 7:38
#3
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Go Pens!!
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Quoting: az27042007
U probably need all you're picks to get kane with that package and maybe still they don't accept.


kane is 32 years ld on a 10 million dollar contract, bet you didnt even click the link in the description
Dec 3, 2020 at 7:40
#4
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Quoting: Sid_the_kid_875948
kane is 32 years ld on a 10 million dollar contract, bet you didnt even click the link in the description



and he is still top ten players in the league.
Dec 3, 2020 at 7:43
#5
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Go Pens!!
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Quoting: az27042007
a

and he is still top ten players in the league.


thats funny there was no link i just added it as soon as you posted this. Yes kane is top ten player in the league but his contract is too big for a 32 year old (just sayin)
Dec 3, 2020 at 7:43
#6
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Quoting: Sid_the_kid_875948
kane is 32 years ld on a 10 million dollar contract, bet you didnt even click the link in the description


Kane before this trade is a 30 goal 80-100 point player making 10 mill after this trade he's a 30 goal 80-100 point player making 7.5 mill, you aren't getting him for nothing

Side note just because some Athletics article says that's what they want/they'll get doesn't make it true, they get paid by clicks
Dec 3, 2020 at 7:45
#7
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Go Pens!!
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Quoting: yaronzo
Kane before this trade is a 30 goal 80-100 point player making 10 mill after this trade he's a 30 goal 80-100 point player making 7.5 mill, you aren't getting him for nothing

Side note just because some Athletics article says that's what they want/they'll get doesn't make it true, they get paid by clicks


they tretain because he is 32 making 10 mil, yes he is a great player i know that, plus this trade will never happen anyway, we know that
Dec 3, 2020 at 7:46
#8
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Quoting: Sid_the_kid_875948
they tretain because he is 32 making 10 mil, yes he is a great player i know that, plus this trade will never happen anyway, we know that


Great player for 10 million is not an overpayment. Blackhawks would rather have Kane than anything else.
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Dec 3, 2020 at 9:04
#9
CROSBYFORPRESIDENT
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Quoting: yaronzo
If that trade gets you Kane with retention then every team in the league would have Kane and that goes twice for McDonagh with retention


Crosby Malkin Kane... good god that is scary
Dec 3, 2020 at 9:55
#10
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Quoting: Sid_the_kid_875948
they tretain because he is 32 making 10 mil, yes he is a great player i know that, plus this trade will never happen anyway, we know that


It's not a bad contracts since Kane has consisently put up 90-100 every season and it has 3 seasons left, if it had 5+ that's a different story, so for Kane your going to be adding a lot more
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Dec 3, 2020 at 10:15
#11
Hockey IQ
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just a thought....I think a Big name player WOULD play with Sid or Geno and try to make it work but there can only be 1 player per line I think that is "the guy that wants the puck" so IDK if it would work.
Dec 3, 2020 at 10:15
#12
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avs easily decline the Nichushkin deal. they are not downgrading their forward core to gain a 5th round draft pick
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Dec 3, 2020 at 12:56
#13
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Quoting: yaronzo
Kane before this trade is a 30 goal 80-100 point player making 10 mill after this trade he's a 30 goal 80-100 point player making 7.5 mill, you aren't getting him for nothing

Side note just because some Athletics article says that's what they want/they'll get doesn't make it true, they get paid by clicks


I actually agree on the value of Kane. Not because he's going to the penguins here but his value in general. 32 does not fit well with a huge trade. You are talking 2-3 years of useful play at best.
Not that he's totally worthless at 35-6 but there will be decline. He will not be the same player you are getting now. Who is one already in decline. Father time is undefeated.

So a 1st + an A prospect sounds about right. No team is going to give up something ridiculous like 4 1st for him. That's insane. Adding Zucker a 1st and a very good prospect is a fair trade.

Now is it in CHI best interest to do this. No, it's never in a teams best interest to trade a player like that. But CHI has decided to rebuild apparently. You have an aging star, who doesn't want to rebuild, who is still playing well. I'm not sure how that plays out and if Kane demands a trade, I wouldn't go expecting the world. How many years does it take CHI to turn it around, this year they should have got a better pick. They been riding the bottom for some time. How many years does he have left playing at his currently level 2-3. It's a bad calculation for Kane to say, I'll stay here and still win.
Something tells me they do move him at some point. Maybe next year after this year is horrible. Because there is no reason to think he doesn't want to chase cups. He's already got his money.
Dec 3, 2020 at 8:56
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Edited Dec 3, 2020 at 9:03
Theres a lot wrong with this, IMO. But the McCann trade is criminally. McCann has had back to back 35 point seasons. 19 goals in 2018-19. He’ll score 20 plus this year. Has been bounced around from 3C to top 6 LW, to 3 line LW, to 2C when Sid or Geno miss time. Has been moved all around wherever we need him. And he’s only 24 years old and played in the NHL since he was 19. Won a roster spot at 19 years old and never looked back. He’s gonna stick on the LW this year(already said by JR) and do what he does best, and just snipe!! And put the puck in the net. He’ll score 20 plus easily, with the consistency of plying the same spot every night. Exactly what young players need. A routine and consistency. That’s how u ruin players by moving them around everywhere. Usually veterans are the best and able to that; be a utility type player. Again, McCann is only 24 years old still. Ya, Dallas would need to add. Atleast a 1st round pick. Atleast the value of what Kapanen got.

Have u ever even watched him Play?? And he’s a good two-way player too; and good size, 6’1, 195. Former 1st round pick. I bet every team wishes their 22nd overall pick wins a roster spot at 19 years old!!
Feb 23 at 7:55
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Jeuck75
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HUMOGOUSLY HUGE NO FROM THE HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Add your entire team....they STILL say no!!
 
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