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Created by: Revans292

Team: 2020-21 San Jose Sharks

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 4, 2020

Published: Dec. 4, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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This looks like a solid team with good depth and a legit cup contention funny how dumping one salary make space for 4 good players.

Trades

SJS

Toffoli, Tyler

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We sign him for slightly more than Montreal
Offers

MTL

SJS

Dadonov, Evgeni

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We offer 1 more year than Ottawa

OTT

SJS

OTT

Karlsson, Erik

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We don’t resign him he goes elsewhere

SJS

Shattenkirk, Kevin

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We sign shattenkirk instead as we offer better opportunity to win

ANA

SJS

Braun, Justin

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We give him a little more to come back to San Jose and pair him with Vlasic and hope this helps Vlasic’s play

PHI

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$70,596,667	$0	$212,500	$10,903,333

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kane, Evander $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Hertl, Tomas $5,625,000$5,625,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Toffoli, Tyler $2,575,000$2,575,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Meier, Timo $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Couture, Logan $8,000,000$8,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 7	Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Sörensen, Marcus $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Donato, Ryan $1,900,000$1,900,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1	Labanc, Kevin $4,725,000$4,725,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Nieto, Matt $700,000$700,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Marleau, Patrick $700,000$700,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Noesen, Stefan $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Simek, Radim $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Burns, Brent $5,280,000$5,280,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 5	Jones, Martin $5,750,000$5,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 4
Ferraro, Mario $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) LD UFA - 2	Shattenkirk, Kevin $3,900,000$3,900,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Dubnyk, Devan $2,166,667$2,166,667 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard $7,000,000$7,000,000 LD/RD NMC UFA - 6	Braun, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Gambrell, Dylan $700,000$700,000 C UFA - 1
Kellman, Joel $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 2
Middleton, Jake $725,000$725,000 LD UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Kane, E.		Hertl, T.		Toffoli, T.
	Labanc, K.		Burns, B.

Power Play 2
Meier, T.		Couture, L.		Dadonov, E.
	Donato, R.		Shattenkirk, K.

Penalty Kill 1
	Sörensen, M.	Nieto, M.
	Vlasic, M.	Braun, J.

Penalty Kill 2
	Marleau, P.	Noesen, S.
	Ferraro, M.	Simek, R.

Dec. 4, 2020 at 5:35 a.m.

Adomaitis

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Goalie problem not addressed

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Dec. 4, 2020 at 7:10 a.m.

A_Habs_fan

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The thing is I’m pretty sure Wilson’s choice was Karlsson over players like Pavelski and Marleau so if anything you’d get Pavelski back

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Dec. 4, 2020 at 7:16 a.m.

Green4D4

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You'd also still have your 2020 1st round pick which turned into Stuetzle... no take backsies.

As much as I love King Karl... the trade, at the time, made a lot of sense. The entire city of Ottawa thought we got fleeced. Then SJS, got old and hurt and everything fell apart for them. Jones and Dell couldn't stop a beach volleyball. Players checked out...

Dec. 4, 2020 at 9:11 a.m.

yikes

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Quoting: Green4D4Again

No his post was about not resigning EK65, we use him for the “cup” run we went for, lose in the WCF and don’t keep him.

Quoting: A_Habs_fan

The thing is I’m pretty sure Wilson’s choice was Karlsson over players like Pavelski and Marleau so if anything you’d get Pavelski back

As he said^

The roster wouldn’t include Toffoli and dadonov.

It’d be

Kane Hertl pavs
Meier couture Labanc
Donato Handemark Nieto/ UFA (idk the space we’d have with Pavs instead of the other two)
(if were keeping this OF moves of Donato dub Nieto etc)
Marleau Kellman Noesen/Sorensen

Simek Burns
Ferraro Shatty
Vlasic Braun

Dub
Jones

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Dec. 4, 2020 at 9:34 a.m.

Green4D4

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Quoting: yikes

No his post was about not resigning EK65, we use him for the “cup” run we went for, lose in the WCF and don’t keep him.

As he said^

The roster wouldn’t include Toffoli and dadonov.

It’d be

Kane Hertl pavs
Meier couture Labanc
Donato Handemark Nieto/ UFA (idk the space we’d have with Pavs instead of the other two)
(if were keeping this OF moves of Donato dub Nieto etc)
Marleau Kellman Noesen/Sorensen

Simek Burns
Ferraro Shatty
Vlasic Braun

Dub
Jones

Fair enough. Misread.

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Dec. 4, 2020 at 9:39 a.m.

Lenny7

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Quoting: Adamitis

Goalie problem not addressed

Yup. Tough to do much with a couple of sieves between the pipes.

Dec. 4, 2020 at 10:55 a.m.

Habs4life

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Don’t live in the past man!!!

Dec. 4, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.

Revans292

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Quoting: Lenny7

Yup. Tough to do much with a couple of sieves between the pipes.

I agree but my hope is that Karlsson was the problem as Jones was good.... until Karlsson came aboard.
Plus I think Dubnyk rebounds and plays well and well
We’re stuck with jones unless Seattle picks him... Lmao no were stuck with him.

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Dec. 4, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.

Revans292

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Quoting: Habs4life

Don’t live in the past man!!!

I know I know... I just really hate Karlsson and seeing what we could have had had we not paid karlssson that stupid contract makes me regret it.

Dec. 4, 2020 at 1:22 p.m.

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Revans292

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Quoting: yikes

Your probably right however this was more a “what if” kinda deal and I was just looking at guys I wanted from this offseason
Tbh pavalski is 35/36 and giving him 3 years would have been dumb so I’m sad to see him go but glad he’s not resigned.

Dec. 4, 2020 at 1:22 p.m.

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Revans292

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Quoting: Green4D4Again

I agree I was stoked at the time of the trade as I saw Karlsson as the only player I thought was better than Burns. But it didn’t age well and I would have preferred to let him walk rather than sign him to that stupid deal.

Dec. 4, 2020 at 1:26 p.m.

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Revans292

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

The thing is I’m pretty sure Wilson’s choice was Karlsson over players like Pavelski and Marleau so if anything you’d get Pavelski back

I know this was more a what if kinda deal like what if he didn’t resign or what if he left this year what could we have done with the money. Total fantasy kinda deal.

Dec. 4, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.

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Green4D4

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Quoting: Revans292

I'm really hoping for a return to form for him. Karlsson, not 2 years ago, was in the same conversation as people like Crosby and McDavid. He was a game changer every time he had the puck. He just lost all of his jump with the ankle injury and then groin injury last year. Not to mention the Achilles tendon issue...

It's amazing he even has a leg left...

Dec. 4, 2020 at 2:19 p.m.

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Revans292

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Quoting: Green4D4Again

Whatever look at Alex smith he looks pretty good and he almost got his leg removed it was so bad. Karlsson has had over a year since he last played a game. He should be 100% by the time the puck drops

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