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Created by: Chabotrrorr

Team: 2020-21 New York Islanders

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 6, 2021

Published: Jan. 6, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Barzal, Mathew		3	$7,000,000
Timashov, Dmytro		2	$725,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Greene, Andy	1	$900,000
Kühnhackl, Tom	2	$725,000
Martin, Matt	2	$1,500,000
Schneider, Cory	1	$700,000
Bachman, Richard	1	$700,000
Beleskey, Matt	1	$700,000
Hutton, Ben	1	$874,125

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Ladd, Andrew	1	$700,000
Komarov, Leo	1	$700,000
Hickey, Thomas	1	$700,000

Buyouts

Rick DiPietro: $0
Andrew Ladd: $4,833,333
Leo Komarov: $2,083,333
Thomas Hickey: $1,875,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$77,634,958	$0	$537,500	$3,865,042

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Lee, Anders $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW NTC UFA - 6	Barzal, Mathew $7,000,000$7,000,000 C, RW UFA - 3	Eberle, Jordan $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 4
Beauvillier, Anthony $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Nelson, Brock $6,000,000$6,000,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Bailey, Josh $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW, C UFA - 4
Timashov, Dmytro $725,000$725,000 LW UFA - 1	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel $5,000,000$5,000,000 C NTC UFA - 6	Clutterbuck, Cal $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW UFA - 2
Martin, Matt $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Cizikas, Casey $3,350,000$3,350,000 C UFA - 1	Komarov, Leo $700,000$700,000
Johnston, Ross $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Pelech, Adam $1,600,000$1,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Pulock, Ryan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RD UFA - 2	Varlamov, Semyon $5,000,000$5,000,000 G NTC UFA - 3
Leddy, Nick $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD UFA - 2	Mayfield, Scott $1,450,000$1,450,000 RD UFA - 3	Sorokin, Ilya $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Greene, Andy $900,000$900,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Dobson, Noah $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RD RFA - 2
Hutton, Ben $874,125$874,125 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Boychuk, Johnny $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Ladd, Andrew $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
Dal Colle, Michael $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW UFA - 1
Kühnhackl, Tom $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW UFA
Jenkins, Blade $803,333$803,333 ($0$0$0$0) LW UFA - 3
Hickey, Thomas $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
Schneider, Cory $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1

Jan. 6, 2021 at 2:31 p.m.

wojme

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Quite literally illegal

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Jan. 6, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.

Bolts_Fan_Dan

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Violates CBA

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Jan. 6, 2021 at 2:39 p.m.

Chabotrrorr

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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan

Violates CBA

What's CBA?

Jan. 6, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.

Bolts_Fan_Dan

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Quoting: Chabotrrorr

What's CBA?

Collective Bargaining agreement. Contract between owners and players making all the rules of contracts player conduct standards and the like.

Jan. 6, 2021 at 2:57 p.m.

slapshot723

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Quoting: wojme

Quite literally illegal

You know, I don't advocate for any of this, but didn't the Flames do that with Michael Stone? I'm pretty sure they bought him out and then re-signed him.

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Jan. 6, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.

Chabotrrorr

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Quoting: slapshot723

You know, I don't advocate for any of this, but didn't the Flames do that with Michael Stone? I'm pretty sure they bought him out and then re-signed him.

yes they did

Jan. 6, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Too late for a buyout.

Jan. 6, 2021 at 3:24 p.m.

wojme

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Quoting: slapshot723

You know, I don't advocate for any of this, but didn't the Flames do that with Michael Stone? I'm pretty sure they bought him out and then re-signed him.

They bought him out in the last year of his contract

Jan. 6, 2021 at 3:32 p.m.

TheWhiteWhale

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Even if this wasn’t illegal.. you’re literally paying Ladd more money this way

Jan. 6, 2021 at 3:36 p.m.

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Chabotrrorr

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Quoting: Isles555

Even if this wasn’t illegal.. you’re literally paying Ladd more money this way

I know

Jan. 6, 2021 at 3:36 p.m.

#11

Chabotrrorr

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Quoting: Chabotrrorr

I know

For 1 year

Jan. 6, 2021 at 3:55 p.m.

#12

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: slapshot723

You know, I don't advocate for any of this, but didn't the Flames do that with Michael Stone? I'm pretty sure they bought him out and then re-signed him.

I recall the NHL and NHLPA reaching an agreement about a specific exception to the rule for this particular circumstance.

Jan. 6, 2021 at 3:55 p.m.

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Bolts_Fan_Dan

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There is an amount of time that has to pass

Jan. 6, 2021 at 4:01 p.m.

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Random2152

Just Keep Swimming

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Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan

There is an amount of time that has to pass

Quoting: OldNYIfan

I recall the NHL and NHLPA reaching an agreement about a specific exception to the rule for this particular circumstance.

Quoting: Isles555

Even if this wasn’t illegal.. you’re literally paying Ladd more money this way

Quoting: wojme

They bought him out in the last year of his contract

Quoting: wojme

Quite literally illegal

For some reason this a popular myth on the site.
CF confirmed that there is no rule preventing a team from signing a player they have bought out. The only time that rule applies is for compliance buyouts.
It is however too late to make a buyout for this season. Can only be done in a specific window.

Jan. 6, 2021 at 4:12 p.m.

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wojme

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Quoting: Random2152

Show me the validation to cf saying that you can sign a player right after buying them out with multiple years left on the contract.

Jan. 6, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.

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Random2152

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Quoting: wojme

Show me the validation to cf saying that you can sign a player right after buying them out with multiple years left on the contract.

Show me the rule that says you can't. Stop perpetuating false narratives

With regards to CGY buying out Stone on Aug 1st, and then resigning him on Sept 11th, there is nothing in the CBA that prohibits a club from doing this.Only a player bought out under the "Compliance Buy-Out" provision was prohibited from resigning with the same club for 1 year. pic.twitter.com/BGCUjqcjnP
— CapFriendly (@CapFriendly) September 11, 2019

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