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2 Blockbusters

Created by: Brad21
Initial Creation Date: Jan 22, 2021
Published: Jan 22 at 12:30
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
After these trades,they could add some great players at the deadline.
Trades
TOR
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Hamilton, Dougie
  3. Svechnikov, Andrei
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Marner, Mitchell ($2,500,000 retained)
  2. Rielly, Morgan
  3. Malgin, Denis
TOR
  1. McAvoy, Charlie
  2. Rask, Tuukka
  3. Schmaltz, Jake [Reserve List]
BOS
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Andersen, Frederik
  3. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Mitchell Marner: $2,500,000 (22.93%)
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TOR
CAR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$76,717,709$0$2,832,500$4,782,291
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CAR
Svechnikov, Andrei
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Anderson, Joey
$750,000
RW
RFA - 3
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Hållander, Filip
$764,167
C
RFA - 3
TOR
Brooks, Adam
$725,000
C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
$4,900,000
RD
RFA - 2
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
BOS
Rask, Tuukka
$7,000,000
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 2
CAR
Hamilton, Dougie
$5,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Thornton, Joe
$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 3
Taxi Squad
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000 ($175,000)
LW, C
RFA - 2
CAR
Bracco, Jeremy
$700,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Amirov, Rodion
$925,000 ($0)
LW
RFA
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333 ($0)
RD
RFA - 2
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
$725,000 ($0)
G
UFA - 2

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Jan 22 at 1:58
#26
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
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Quoting: imawesome
I wouldn't say that he's top 5, but he's a lot better than Rielly


Name 5 better? Hedman, Josi. Who else?
Jan 22 at 1:59
#27
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
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Quoting: Saskleaf
It's virtually non existant actually.


Ones not even the best Dman on his own team. The other is a top dman in the league.
Jan 22 at 2:00
#28
imawesome
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 2,368
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Quoting: Jah1722
Name 5 better? Hedman, Josi. Who else?


Carlson, Pietrangelo. Ok so he's probably 5th
Jan 22 at 2:04
#29
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 2,476
Likes: 1,028
Quoting: Jah1722
Reilly isn’t even the best Dman on his team. Hamilton is clearly top 5


who is? a ducks fan that watches every leaf game lmao you tell me, why is he top 5?
Jan 22 at 2:05
#30
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 2,476
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Quoting: Jah1722
Ones not even the best Dman on his own team. The other is a top dman in the league.


you are a clown lol, let me guess, manson is also a top d man?
Jan 22 at 2:06
#31
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,727
Likes: 1,237
Quoting: imawesome
Carlson, Pietrangelo. Ok so he's probably 5th


Idk why I forgot Pietrangelo but I like Dougie over Carlson but that’s a toss up.
Jan 22 at 2:07
#32
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,727
Likes: 1,237
Quoting: vr1995
you are a clown lol, let me guess, manson is also a top d man?


Why do you losers continue to bring up things that were never said? Leaf fans sure love to whine.
Jan 22 at 2:12
#33
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 13,337
Likes: 6,112
Quoting: vr1995
barely lol,, and ignored the defensive part, marner has had 90 point pace the last 2 years. matthews outproduced mackinnon at the same age, can you imagine me as a leafs fan said he was better because of that? id get laughed at


Fine is this better for you? Maybe you should actually watch a canes game, Svechnikov will be a top 10 LWer by the end of the year
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Jan 22 at 2:15
#34
Joined: Aug 2019
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Quoting: Jah1722
Why do you losers continue to bring up things that were never said? Leaf fans sure love to whine.


yup cant answer the hard ones so you resort to someone else. since you watch so many leaf games whos better than rielly? muzzin is better defensively but rielly is more effective. but theres no way you actually watch the leaf games so you dont even know so i dont know why youre trying to tell somebody who watches very game something you dont know, im willing to bet money that the only leaf games you watch are the ones against anaheim?, why is hamilton top 5? let me guess you read charts and other peoples opinions because you dont know enough to develop your own opinions? lmao and im the loser
Jan 22 at 2:19
#35
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
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Likes: 1,237
Quoting: vr1995
yup cant answer the hard ones so you resort to someone else. since you watch so many leaf games whos better than rielly? muzzin is better defensively but rielly is more effective. but theres no way you actually watch the leaf games so you dont even know so i dont know why youre trying to tell somebody who watches very game something you dont know, im willing to bet money that the only leaf games you watch are the ones against anaheim?, why is hamilton top 5? let me guess you read charts and other peoples opinions because you dont know enough to develop your own opinions? lmao and im the loser


Muzzin is better. It’s why they lost to CBJ in the play ins. You can bring up Manson all you want doesn’t change the fact that Reilly isn’t on the same level as Dougie. You talking about watching games like you watch CAR consistently. And yes you’re the loser who brought up Manson when talking about Reilly and Dougie.
Jan 22 at 2:24
#36
Joined: Aug 2019
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Edited Jan 22 at 2:29
Quoting: Jah1722
Muzzin is better. It’s why they lost to CBJ in the play ins. You can bring up Manson all you want doesn’t change the fact that Reilly isn’t on the same level as Dougie. You talking about watching games like you watch CAR consistently. And yes you’re the loser who brought up Manson when talking about Reilly and Dougie.


you dont watch leaf games stop lying, you are pathetic, i never said i watch CAR games consittently, please point to where i said that, you are too ignorant to develop your own opinion so you result to others, you have yet to tell me why hamilton is top 5 and why rielly isnt he best on his team, still waiting.
Jan 22 at 2:28
#37
Joined: Aug 2019
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Fine is this better for you? Maybe you should actually watch a canes game, Svechnikov will be a top 10 LWer by the end of the year
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did you not see what is said the first time, marner puts up more points and is better defensively, which that chart proves about the defense, and the points is a fact at this point, i never once said svech was bad which is the way you took it, the first person said svech is better, which at this point in time he is not, marner also plays pk, can svech be better in a year or 2? yes, did i ever say he couldnt? nope. dont get things twisted
Jan 22 at 2:30
#38
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,727
Likes: 1,237
Quoting: vr1995
you dont watch leaf games stop lying, you are pathetic, i never said i watch CAR games, please point to where i said that, you are too ignorant to develop your own opinion so you result to others, you have yet to tell me why hamilton is top 5 and why rielly isnt he best on his team, still waiting.


So to use your argument how do you know how good dougie is? Charts? Someone told you?
Jan 22 at 3:26
#39
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 2,476
Likes: 1,028
Quoting: Jah1722
So to use your argument how do you know how good dougie is? Charts? Someone told you?


here is the difference between what you said and i said, read back if you wish i started off by saying he was overrated, didnt say he was bad at all, but when people call him better than hedman josi pietrangelo etc. when ive watched enough of those guys to know that its nowhere close to being true at all, then how is he not overrated? do i watch car games consistently? but when i do hes not on the level of those guys and the only thing that suggest hes better than them is those charts and analytics, and i know that because i follow a bunch of different hockey accounts and i know advanced stats is huge in in todays game and those stats are what suggest it. so just because those charts say it doesnt mean its true, he also plays with slavin who is good defender and all of these other guys that are talked about in the top 5 have worse partners than he does

my next point was there isnt that much of a difference as people say there is between them, why do i say that? rielly is better offensively and hamilton is better on d, big difference rielly has had hainsey zaitsev and ceci as his partners and hamilton has slavin which is 10x better than any of those guys, never said rielly was better all i said was its closer than people think which isnt outlandish at all
Jan 22 at 3:53
#40
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,727
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Quoting: vr1995
here is the difference between what you said and i said, read back if you wish i started off by saying he was overrated, didnt say he was bad at all, but when people call him better than hedman josi pietrangelo etc. when ive watched enough of those guys to know that its nowhere close to being true at all, then how is he not overrated? do i watch car games consistently? but when i do hes not on the level of those guys and the only thing that suggest hes better than them is those charts and analytics, and i know that because i follow a bunch of different hockey accounts and i know advanced stats is huge in in todays game and those stats are what suggest it. so just because those charts say it doesnt mean its true, he also plays with slavin who is good defender and all of these other guys that are talked about in the top 5 have worse partners than he does

my next point was there isnt that much of a difference as people say there is between them, why do i say that? rielly is better offensively and hamilton is better on d, big difference rielly has had hainsey zaitsev and ceci as his partners and hamilton has slavin which is 10x better than any of those guys, never said rielly was better all i said was its closer than people think which isnt outlandish at all


I read the first sentence, you said “here’s the difference between”, there’s no difference between you claiming idk because I don’t watch but you know because you don’t watch? Sounds reasonable
Jan 22 at 4:14
#41
Joined: Aug 2019
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Quoting: Jah1722
I read the first sentence, you said “here’s the difference between”, there’s no difference between you claiming idk because I don’t watch but you know because you don’t watch? Sounds reasonable


every argument you made, you did absolutely nothing to back it up but change the subject, "dougie is top 5 for sure" never said why, "dougie is way better than rielly" never said why, "muzzin is better than rielly" never said why, like do you know how to read? did your mom do MMA when she was pregnant with you?
Jan 22 at 4:18
#42
best poster
Joined: Jul 2019
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This team would run into the exact same problems a couple years down the road. At least 15 million of that 23 million in cap would be dedicated to Svech/Hamilton.
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Jan 22 at 4:19
#43
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,727
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Quoting: vr1995
every argument you made, you did absolutely nothing to back it up but change the subject, "dougie is top 5 for sure" never said why, "dougie is way better than rielly" never said why, "muzzin is better than rielly" never said why, like do you know how to read? did your mom do MMA when she was pregnant with you?


Says the guys who’s argument is I watch Reilly so he’s good.
Jan 22 at 4:33
#44
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 2,476
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Quoting: Jah1722
Says the guys who’s argument is I watch Reilly so he’s good.


NO I said i watch every game so i know hes the best d on the leafs, so stupid
Jan 22 at 9:48
#45
Lets go riders
Joined: Apr 2020
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I can agree that Toronto probably doesnt do it, but we shall agree to disagree on the other part


Good idea.
Jan 22 at 9:54
#46
Lets go riders
Joined: Apr 2020
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Quoting: Jah1722
Ones not even the best Dman on his own team. The other is a top dman in the league.


Not even the best defenceman on his team? Hahahahahahaha nice troll. Just know that if you want to say dumb things like that, no one will take you seriously. Muzzin might be better in his own end, but Rielly's superb offensive game more than makes up for it, no question. It's really not even debatable.
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Jan 22 at 10:23
#47
Thread Starter
HopeTheFlamesComeBak
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Not even the best defenceman on his team? Hahahahahahaha nice troll. Just know that if you want to say dumb things like that, no one will take you seriously. Muzzin might be better in his own end, but Rielly's superb offensive game more than makes up for it, no question. It's really not even debatable.


What about Brodie though?
Jan 22 at 10:47
#48
Lets go riders
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Quoting: Brad21
What about Brodie though?


Brodie? He's great, but trying to say either Muzzin or Brodie is better than Rielly is just dumb.
Jan 22 at 10:50
#49
Jah1722
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 2,727
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Not even the best defenceman on his team? Hahahahahahaha nice troll. Just know that if you want to say dumb things like that, no one will take you seriously. Muzzin might be better in his own end, but Rielly's superb offensive game more than makes up for it, no question. It's really not even debatable.


I too like to see when Reilly loses his jock in the dzone.
Jan 22 at 11:04
#50
Thread Starter
HopeTheFlamesComeBak
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Brodie? He's great, but trying to say either Muzzin or Brodie is better than Rielly is just dumb.


I didn't say Muzzin was better,but Brodie is better at Defense, and already has more points. Brodie is almost as good as Rielly,but not quite.
 
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