The Zucker trade really isn't a good comparable. Zucker had 3 full seasons on his deal, Hertal has 1. The cap was expected to go up a few million each year, now it's flat. Pit was in win now mode, MN isn't. MN fleeced PIT at the time of the trade.

Hertl isn't a top-20 center. He's a 2C on most teams, and a 1C on a few bad teams. It would be like MN fans say JEE (right now) is a top-20 center.

One year plus for Hertl (depending upon when the trade is made) vs multi years out of Boldy, Addison and the first-round pick.

For what is a building (if not rebuilding) team, that doesn't make sense.

**** Dustin Brown all my homies hate Dustin Brown

Personally I wouldn't be willing to give up Boldy and Addison, but those two are probably selling points for the Sharks. Addison has looked fantastic in his few NHL games, I see a possible top pairing player at his potential. Boldy is probably more of a fringe top line player, realistically a top 6 guy at his potential. I just think that's way too much for Hertl, who is only signed through 2022 and is 27 years old. For me the smart move for Guerin is just build through the draft; hope we land Kent Johnson or even better, Matt Beniers. Another team can pay big for Hertl.

No way Beniers falls into the 10-20 range (where MN will be picking). Raty might fall into that range though.

If it's not a top-10 pick I have little faith in MN's new draft guy.

I agree, but as fans we can hope. I do not want Raty, but that's coming from someone who did not like Lundell at all...

I'm indifferent to him. It was just the first center I thought of in that draft range. Beniers is a top-5 lock (guessing top-3), and Johnson is a top-10 lock.

Even as ugly as MN has been they are too good to be in the top-10 for picks this year. PIT's 1st will be in the same 10-20 boat too.

Read my comment above on page 1 to clarify offer please



I never called Hertl a top twenty Center please read the comments I quoted in addition to what I quoted. Comparing Hertl and JEE is also funny.

And yes the zucker trade is a fine comparable as I feel both players are the same sort of value as both players are that sorta “not elite but better then good, not worth 9mil but definitely a 6-7m guy who all teams would love to have” and in addition Hertl is a Center which is a more desirable position IN ADDITION it’s a area of need for the team I selected. And again, in addition; galchenyuk was involved in the trade which I did not include a NHL player in the deal. I included rask as a cap dump which if you follow my comments I’m am fine with removing the first and additionally removing rask.

I did. That's what convinced me that this offer is a bad idea for Minnesota.

To begin with, Minnesota isn't paying Hertl $5.625 million now, so they aren't "saving" $4 million via the $2 million retention on his compensation.

Secondly, Rask is someone the WIld have no problem exposing in the expansion draft. In contrast, Hertl is someone additional that they'd have to protect, in turn exposing someone that right now, they're planning on shielding from Seattle.

Third, Hertl's contract expires right when we expect Minnesota becoming a serious competitor -- and right when we expect Boldy and Addison to arrive at the top tier of their positions. And that's not even considering the lost impact of the first-round draft pick.

No, this is poor asset management for Minnesota.