Biggest Mistake in Team History

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Created by: Valley_Milkman

Team: 2020-21 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 22, 2021

Published: Feb. 22, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Which is the biggest mistake in Sens history - drafting Daigle over Pronger in 1993 or the sign-and-trade of Hossa for Heatley that ultimately alienated Chara (yes, I realize that there were other factors, but that was one of, if not the, biggest)? There have obviously been a ton of other bad decisions made by the org, but I think these have to be the two top contenders. Thoughts?

Free Agent Signings

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Redden, Wade	1	$800,000
Pronger, Chris	1	$800,000
Daigle, Alexandre	1	$800,000
Heatley, Dany	1	$800,000

Trades

OTT

Chara, Zdeno

Additional Details:

Hossa

WSH

Redden
Heatley

OTT

Pronger

CAR

Daigle

OTT

Hossa, Marián

ARI

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
Dion Phaneuf: $1,354,167

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
29	$81,500,000	$77,394,249	$0	$7,900,000	$4,105,751

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Chara, Zdeno $795,000$795,000 ($730,000$730K) LD NMC UFA - 1		Redden, Wade $800,000$800,000
Hossa, Marián $5,275,000$5,275,000 RW NMC UFA - 1		Heatley, Dany $800,000$800,000

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
	Daigle, Alexandre $800,000$800,000


Pronger, Chris $800,000$800,000

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Gudbranson, Erik $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Högberg, Marcus $700,000$700,000 G UFA - 1
Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 8
Brown, Joshua $1,200,000$1,200,000 RD UFA - 2
Reilly, Mike $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD UFA - 1
Wolanin, Christian $900,000$900,000 LD UFA - 1
Norris, Joshua $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C UFA - 2
Zub, Artem $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 1
Paul, Nicholas $749,250$749,250 C, LW UFA - 2
Brännström, Erik $863,333$863,333 ($450,000$450K) LD/RD, LW RFA - 2
Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 3
Batherson, Drake $736,666$736,666 ($20,000$20K) RW, LW UFA - 1
Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Brown, Connor $3,600,000$3,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Dzingel, Ryan $3,375,000$3,375,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1
Tierney, Chris $3,500,000$3,500,000 C UFA - 2
Tkachuk, Brady $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) LW UFA - 1
Anisimov, Artem $4,550,000$4,550,000 C, LW UFA - 1
Stepan, Derek $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G UFA - 4
Daccord, Joey $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 3
Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
White, Colin $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 5

Taxi Squad
Coburn, Braydon $1,700,000$1,700,000 ($625,000$625K$625,000$625K) LD NTC UFA - 1
Mandolese, Kevin $835,000$835,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($65,000$65K) G RFA - 3
Haley, Micheal $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C UFA - 1
Peca, Matthew $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, C UFA - 1

Feb. 22, 2021 at 3:54 p.m.

Ste_Catherine_Street

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Daigle over Pronger 100%

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Feb. 22, 2021 at 4:00 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Heatley put up back to back 100 point seasons on like the only good teams you've ever had and you call that one of the worst trades history?

Feb. 22, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.

Cecifornorristrophy

Blues and canadiens

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Having Melnyk as the owner.

Feb. 22, 2021 at 4:04 p.m.

mokumboi

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Not an AGM, dude.

Feb. 22, 2021 at 4:08 p.m.

A_Habs_fan

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Also Sens chose to sign Redden over Chara as UFA's

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Feb. 22, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.

csick

KFTW

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Quoting: mokumboi

Not an AGM, dude.

You can always not click on the post

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Feb. 22, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.

Valley_Milkman

Thread Starter

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Heatley put up back to back 100 point seasons on like the only good teams you've ever had and you call that one of the worst trades history?

Heatley was great for a short period of time for Ottawa and Redden flamed out fast. Comparing that to the careers of both Hossa and Chara after they left Ottawa is where it gets bad fast.

Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Also Sens chose to sign Redden over Chara as UFA's

They definitely chose Redden over Chara, but Chara was good friends with Hossa in Ottawa and the sign-and-trade really soured his relationship with the team. Even if they'd wanted to sign Chara over Redden, I'm not sure he would have stayed, which made the choice a moot point.

Feb. 22, 2021 at 4:37 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: Valley_Milkman

Heatley was great for a short period of time for Ottawa and Redden flamed out fast. Comparing that to the careers of both Hossa and Chara after they left Ottawa is where it gets bad fast.

They definitely chose Redden over Chara, but Chara was good friends with Hossa in Ottawa and the sign-and-trade really soured his relationship with the team. Even if they'd wanted to sign Chara over Redden, I'm not sure he would have stayed, which made the choice a moot point.

The Chara stuff is just a rumor.

Heatley was fantastic and was more than a point per game player in the playoffs when they went to the finals. You can be sad about Hossa but to call it the biggest mistake in team history is quite a leap.

Feb. 22, 2021 at 5:24 p.m.

mokumboi

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Quoting: csick

You can always not click on the post

Well, perhaps if the thread title let it be known that it didn't belong here, I agree. This one didn't.

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Feb. 22, 2021 at 6:30 p.m.

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TCMonkey

Hockey 1st Sens 2nd

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Picking Daigle first overall was not a mistake. It was the choice almost, if not every GM would've made. All the hockey analyst who claimed they knew, years AFTER, are full of crap.

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