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Cap Situation and Sergachev Solution

Created by: OldNYIfan
Initial Creation Date: Feb 27, 2021
Published: Feb 27 at 4:22
Team: 2021-22 Tampa Bay Lightning
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Let's suppose Seattle obliges Tampa and takes one of the Lightning's big-hit forwards off their hands. That still doesn't solve Tampa's cap problem, because with Nikita Kucherov back, they have 16 players under contract with only $1,783,333 in cap space. So this trade might be necessary.

I've been kicking around variations of this idea with my friend ZiggyPalffy. We both agree that it would be great for the Kings, good for the Lightning, and unlikely to happen in real life. But it's fun to think about.

In the main trade, Jaret Anderson-Dolan and Tyler Madden are alternatives to Akil Thomas (who's right-handed), and there are a wide variety of bottom-6 forwards available as alternatives to Blake Lizotte.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Foote, Cal2$1,250,000
Lizotte, Blake2$1,250,000
Volkov, Alexander2$980,000
Clague, Kale2$900,000
Raddysh, Taylor2$850,000
Barré-Boulet, Alex2$800,000
Day, Sean2$750,000
Borgman, Andreas2$750,000
Martin, Spencer2$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Coleman, Blake4$2,500,000
Driedger, Chris2$1,325,000
Schenn, Luke2$800,000
Smith, Gemel2$750,000
Trades
TBL
    Seattle, not Las Vegas
    VGK
    1. Palat, Ondrej
    2. 2021 1st round pick (TBL)
    TBL
    1. Turcotte, Alex
    2. Thomas, Akil
    3. Lizotte, Blake [RFA Rights]
    4. Clague, Kale [RFA Rights]
    5. 2021 1st round pick (LAK)
    LAK
    1. Johnson, Tyler
    2. Sergachev, Mikhail
    Buyouts
    • Vincent Lecavalier: $0
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    LAK
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    NSH
    NJD
    2022
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    2023
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$80,696,666$0$1,550,000$803,334
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    TBL
    Coleman, Blake
    $2,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    TBL
    Point, Brayden
    $6,750,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
    TBL
    Kucherov, Nikita
    $9,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    TBL
    Killorn, Alex
    $4,450,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    TBL
    Cirelli, Anthony
    $4,800,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Stamkos, Steven
    $8,500,000
    C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    TBL
    Gourde, Yanni
    $5,166,666
    C, LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    LAK
    Turcotte, Alex
    $925,000
    C
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Volkov, Alexander
    $980,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
    TBL
    Maroon, Patrick
    $900,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Lizotte, Blake
    $1,250,000
    C
    RFA
    TBL
    Raddysh, Taylor
    $850,000
    RW
    RFA
    TBL
    Joseph, Mathieu
    $737,500
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    TBL
    Stephens, Mitchell
    $737,500
    C
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TBL
    Hedman, Victor
    $7,875,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TBL
    Cernak, Erik
    $2,950,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Vasilevskiy, Andrei
    $9,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    TBL
    McDonagh, Ryan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    TBL
    Rutta, Jan
    $1,300,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Driedger, Chris
    $1,325,000
    G
    UFA
    Clague, Kale
    $900,000
    LD
    RFA
    TBL
    Foote, Cal
    $1,250,000
    RD
    RFA
    TBL
    Schenn, Luke
    $800,000
    RD
    UFA
    Taxi Squad
    LAK
    Thomas, Akil
    $795,000 ($0)
    C
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Barré-Boulet, Alex
    $800,000 ($0)
    C
    RFA
    TBL
    Smith, Gemel
    $750,000 ($0)
    C
    UFA
    TBL
    Borgman, Andreas
    $750,000 ($0)
    LD
    RFA
    TBL
    Day, Sean
    $750,000 ($0)
    LD
    RFA
    TBL
    Martin, Spencer
    $750,000 ($0)
    G
    RFA

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    Feb 27 at 7:23
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    Quoting: imawesome
    I mean ZiggyPalffy was the one who named CoopsTroops a moron first.


    Wow I didn't know we had a councilor here on Capfriendly, thanks for coming and trying to help us through this troubling thread.
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    Feb 27 at 7:31
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    Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
    Wow I didn't know we had a councilor here on Capfriendly, thanks for coming and trying to help us through this troubling thread.


    Grab a beer and relax dude.
    Feb 27 at 7:34
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    Grab a beer and relax dude.


    On my 2nd watching LA Kings Live pregame show
    Feb 27 at 8:26
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Protecting Palat means exposing one of Cernak or Foote, and that's who Seattle would take with no prompting.


    I would do a 7-3-1 and Chose Cernak over McDonagh which I don't think he worth $6,750,000 just to play defense defensemen, and foote don't worry about him we bring in a 1st and some prospect to get rid of a guy like Johnson,
    Feb 27 at 10:09
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Good luck with that. For your sake, I hope that happens. (But why am I sympathizing with the current Stanley Cup holders for someone to solve their problems?)


    Add enough to make it work
    Feb 27 at 10:12
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    Edited Feb 27 at 10:22
    Quoting: VastBluepuppy424
    I would do a 7-3-1 and Chose Cernak over McDonagh which I don't think he worth $6,750,000 just to play defense defensemen, and foote don't worry about him we bring in a 1st and some prospect to get rid of a guy like Johnson,


    4-4 protect Cirrelli, Stamkos, Kucherov, Point
    Hedman, Sergachev, Cernak,Foote Vasy core there. If Seattle doesn't want to deal take your pick only loosing 1 then. If you could use wonder womans golden lasso and force the thruth out if JBB He perfect case is Seattle just picks McDonagh ( granted without serious persuasion isn't happening.) Most realistic is Johnson + i still think Goncalves + 3& 5 do it
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    Feb 27 at 10:21
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    Quoting: Bolts20Cup
    4-4 protect Cirrelli, Stamkos, Kucherov, Point
    Hedman, Sergachev, Cernak,Foote Vasy core there. If Seattle doesn't want to deal take your pick only loosing 1 then


    they'll probably take Joseph playing 11 minutes per game if that happens RN, they make him play 18 minutes and Some how have him put up around 0.75 PPG next season
    Feb 28 at 12:23
    #58
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    Quoting: Bolts20Cup
    4-4 protect Cirrelli, Stamkos, Kucherov, Point
    Hedman, Sergachev, Cernak,Foote Vasy core there. If Seattle doesn't want to deal take your pick only loosing 1 then. If you could use wonder womans golden lasso and force the thruth out if JBB He perfect case is Seattle just picks McDonagh ( granted without serious persuasion isn't happening.) Most realistic is Johnson + i still think Goncalves + 3& 5 do it


    This is exactly how I would go. Seems obvious to me. Then Seattle takes Killorn, flips him to a contender for a second, and you're cap screwed with more than $15 million tied up in Gourde, Johnson and Palat.
    Feb 28 at 2:43
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    Goodrow and Coleman are going to be paid far more than what we can afford, with or without Sergachev on the roster. There's no price in prospects or draft capital that won't be paid to open up the cap space to be compliant with Kucherov back next year.

    As for Sergachev, you grossly undervalue him. Already producing at a higher 5v5 pace than Hedman and defense that is on the high end of 22 year olds in the NHL. He is the future of the defense and team, and to think we would be content with trading him because we still have McDonagh as a #2 is absurd. We'll cross the McDonagh bridge with a buyout, likely, down the line, but trading Sergachev might as well be JBB handing in his resignation papers to the owner.


    Yeah, there are plenty of ways that Tampa makes this work, and none of them include moving Sergachev. I do disagree about Goodrow though, as I believe Tampa has a chance of keeping him. Johnson, Killorn and probably Coleman are gone, but Goodrow I can see staying. After Kucherov comes back, Tampa will only need to have 2 new regulars, and Barre-Boulet, Colton and Smith all have the potential to grab spots going forward.
    Feb 28 at 3:17
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    This is exactly how I would go. Seems obvious to me. Then Seattle takes Killorn, flips him to a contender for a second, and you're cap screwed with more than $15 million tied up in Gourde, Johnson and Palat.


    Not screwed really, as Tampa likely pays to have Seattle take Johnson, and if not, then it'll be another team among the 20 Tampa can work with. Something like 11 teams made deals with Vegas, so I'm sure if Brisebois wants to have the Kraken take a certain player/not take a specific guy then a deal can get done. Tampa has little interest in moving either Gourde or Palat, barring a deal too good to pass up for Palat. Coleman walks since some team will overpay him, and Tampa focuses on keeping Goodrow. The return of Kucherov more than makes up for one of the 3 losses, and Tampa has several young guys more than ready to move up on basically minimum or close to minimum contracts. Tampa can start next year with 21 or 22 depending on exact contract numbers. The following is a rough draft of how they could look to start next season
    Palat-Point-Kucherov
    ABB/Joseph-Cirelli-Stamkos
    Joseph/ABB-Gourde-Goodrow
    Maroon-Stephens-Volkov
    Colton/Smith could also be the 4C and get considerable time.
    Hedman-Rutta
    McD-Cernak
    Serg-Foote
    Borgman/Schenn as a 7
    Vasilevskiy
    Back up that is cheaper than McElhinney
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    Feb 28 at 11:20
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    Quoting: JTBF81
    Not screwed really, as Tampa likely pays to have Seattle take Johnson, and if not, then it'll be another team among the 20 Tampa can work with. Something like 11 teams made deals with Vegas, so I'm sure if Brisebois wants to have the Kraken take a certain player/not take a specific guy then a deal can get done. Tampa has little interest in moving either Gourde or Palat, barring a deal too good to pass up for Palat. Coleman walks since some team will overpay him, and Tampa focuses on keeping Goodrow. The return of Kucherov more than makes up for one of the 3 losses, and Tampa has several young guys more than ready to move up on basically minimum or close to minimum contracts. Tampa can start next year with 21 or 22 depending on exact contract numbers. The following is a rough draft of how they could look to start next season
    Palat-Point-Kucherov
    ABB/Joseph-Cirelli-Stamkos
    Joseph/ABB-Gourde-Goodrow
    Maroon-Stephens-Volkov
    Colton/Smith could also be the 4C and get considerable time.
    Hedman-Rutta
    McD-Cernak
    Serg-Foote
    Borgman/Schenn as a 7
    Vasilevskiy
    Back up that is cheaper than McElhinney


    Thanks for the input!

    I'm going to work with that lineup as a format for doing another 2021-2022 Lightning team.
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    Feb 28 at 2:48
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Thanks for the input!

    I'm going to work with that lineup as a format for doing another 2021-2022 Lightning team.


    Yeah, it's just a rough template and I'm sure there may be a few differences. Tampa certainly will have a couple of tough decisions to make, but they should be able to make it work without trading a core piece like Sergachev.
     
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