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Three Team Trade and more

Created by: TraeYoung
Team: 2020-21 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 9, 2021
Published: Mar. 9, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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The Nuge trade is based off of the Pageau deal in essence.

The values are probably off on most, if not all of these trades but what do we all know, dare I say again, we are all garbage wannabe general managers anyway.
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Légaré, Nathan
  2. Pettersson, Marcus
  3. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Lottery Protected - Penguins can choose to defer or not.

2023 2nd becomes a 2022 2nd if the first defers
PIT
  1. Archibald, Josh
  2. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
Additional Details:
Anaheim would retain 50% of Nuge's salary
2.
ANA
  1. Jones, Caleb
  2. Légaré, Nathan
  3. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
3.
DET
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. Kuemper, Darcy
  2. 2021 4th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. Lavoie, Raphael
  3. 2021 1st round pick (EDM)
5.
EDM
  1. Gusev, Nikita ($2,250,000 retained)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (NJD)
  3. 2021 5th round pick (BUF)
NJD
  1. Kahun, Dominik
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$72,724,013$341,534$730,000$8,775,987
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,463,139$2,463,139
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
RW
RFA - 1
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-$1,250,000-$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$915,000$915,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$875,000$875,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$785,000$785,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 9, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.
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Wings accept
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.
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OMG you rip yourself off on all trades. As well as thats the most any goalie ever got since Roy
Mar. 9, 2021 at 1:48 p.m.
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OMG you rip yourself off on all trades. As well as thats the most any goalie ever got since Roy


I can understand the Kuemper trade being a rip off, but do you care to go in depth on the trades or.....?
Mar. 9, 2021 at 1:53 p.m.
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I can understand the Kuemper trade being a rip off, but do you care to go in depth on the trades or.....?


Sure, Oilers dont need more right wings in the system, all we got is right wings and D. A late 1st and a late 2nd. No way I do that package as an Oilers gm
3rd round pick for Glendening, try a 6th or 7th round pick. Otherwise forget it. 4th line players have crap value, he is good at faceoffs and that is it.
Gusev is really a 3rd line player so a one for one deal is what it should be.
Mar. 9, 2021 at 1:53 p.m.
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OMG you rip yourself off on all trades. As well as thats the most any goalie ever got since Roy


I'm not sure whether you're overvaluing the heck out of Lavoie, or you just haven't really followed any goaltending trades, but you are incorrect.
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
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I'm not sure whether you're overvaluing the heck out of Lavoie, or you just haven't really followed any goaltending trades, but you are incorrect.


Prove it. Lehner is the only goalie in the past 10 years to even get a 1st
Mar. 9, 2021 at 1:58 p.m.
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Sure, Oilers dont need more right wings in the system, all we got is right wings and D. A late 1st and a late 2nd. No way I do that package as an Oilers gm
3rd round pick for Glendening, try a 6th or 7th round pick. Otherwise forget it. 4th line players have crap value, he is good at faceoffs and that is it.
Gusev is really a 3rd line player so a one for one deal is what it should be.


The one for one with Gusev I can get behind, however I can tell you have no watched or read anything about Glendening beyond his faceoff percentage. It is about his ability to provide effective two-way hockey, prompt more successful zon exits and be a reliable penalty killer. You easily pay a 3rd for that. Otherwise, have fun with Turris, Haas, or Khaira. Also, Legare is not for the Oilers, he is for the Ducks in this scenario. Ideally it saves the Oilers from parting with a prospect of their own for Rakell. The picks are then flipped in deals for Rakell and Kuemper, two pieces that would greatly benefit the Oilers. While Nuge is a fan favorite in Edmonton, his lack of 5-on-5 scoring against any team not named the Senators and the Oilers lack of identity revolving where to play him and Draisaitl, Rakell solidifies himself as a winger to play with either McDavid or Leon and is on a cheap, two-year deal which is more affordable then whatever you give Nuge. Does that make sense now? We can quibble over draft picks all day but the players and part are not far off.
Mar. 9, 2021 at 1:58 p.m.
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Prove it. Lehner is the only goalie in the past 10 years to even get a 1st

Schnieder got the 9th overall pick that became Horvat?
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:00 p.m.
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I'm not sure whether you're overvaluing the heck out of Lavoie, or you just haven't really followed any goaltending trades, but you are incorrect.


He is referring to my original Kuemper trade, which had a 2nd round pick added on.
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.
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Schnieder got the 9th overall pick that became Horvat?


He has a McPlayoffs jersey as his profile pic, give him a break tears of joy
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:02 p.m.
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Prove it. Lehner is the only goalie in the past 10 years to even get a 1st

Freddy andersen got the first and second round pick that would become Sam Steel and Max Comtois
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
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Schnieder got the 9th overall pick that became Horvat?


Oh sorry, nine years ago that trade happened. Did he get a monster prospect as well, Everywhere Lavioe goes, he tears it up. Kuemper is often injured and has played one season as a starter.
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:05 p.m.
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Freddy andersen got the first and second round pick that would become Sam Steel and Max Comtois


30th overall. Sure I will give you that for Kuemper. Leave out Lavioe
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:06 p.m.
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Prove it. Lehner is the only goalie in the past 10 years to even get a 1st


I don't think I'll spend too much time doing your work for you, but here's a couple off the top of my head:
-Martin Jones for SJ's first and Sean Kuraly (Who was considered a solid prospect at the time).
-Frederik Andersen for TOR's 1st (Sam Steel) and 2nd (Maxime Comtoissssss!!!!!)
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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Oh sorry, nine years ago that trade happened. Did he get a monster prospect as well, Everywhere Lavioe goes, he tears it up. Kuemper is often injured and has played one season as a starter.


Lavoie is generally seen as a one dimensional prospect. While goal scoring is very necessary and very valuable, players like Lavoie are no guarantees. Daniel Sprong rings a bell. In Kuemper's 10 year career, he has only been below a .905% three times, twice in Minnesota I believe. He has been above average for the past 4 of 5 seasons, particularly the past 3 in Arizona. That is more than the Oilers goalies could ever say this decade, excluding Talbot maybe.
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
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Oh sorry, nine years ago that trade happened. Did he get a monster prospect as well, Everywhere Lavioe goes, he tears it up. Kuemper is often injured and has played one season as a starter.


Lavoie is tearing up the 2nd division in Sweden, which is equivalent to a slightly better ECHL. I'm not saying he's a bad prospect, but he ain't as good as you cool cats keep trying to make him out to be.
Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:12 p.m.
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Lavoie is generally seen as a one dimensional prospect. While goal scoring is very necessary and very valuable, players like Lavoie are no guarantees. Daniel Sprong rings a bell. In Kuemper's 10 year career, he has only been below a .905% three times, twice in Minnesota I believe. He has been above average for the past 4 of 5 seasons, particularly the past 3 in Arizona. That is more than the Oilers goalies could ever say this decade, excluding Talbot maybe.


And has played one full season. Thats it. The trade was a 1st, 2nd, Lavioe who is exactly what the Oilers need (somebody to wing McDavid) and I am not paying that for 30 games, I can pick up a goalie in free agency for nothing.
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:13 p.m.
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Lavoie is tearing up the 2nd division in Sweden, which is equivalent to a slightly better ECHL. I'm not saying he's a bad prospect, but he ain't as good as you cool cats keep trying to make him out to be.


Yup he sure is, he tore up Junior as well. Which is a good thing. As long as he tears up everywhere he plays is good for me.
Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:15 p.m.
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Lavoie is tearing up the 2nd division in Sweden, which is equivalent to a slightly better ECHL.


It's closer to AHL. SHL is a cut above AHL and SHL teams get relegated to Allsvenskan while the top Allsvenskan teams can move up to SHL every year. So Allsvenskan isn't as good as a league, but it's not a full step down from SHL which is, again, better than the AHL.
Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.
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Pettersson has negative value and a long-term contract. Zero interest in that deal.
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Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.
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And has played one full season. Thats it. The trade was a 1st, 2nd, Lavioe who is exactly what the Oilers need (somebody to wing McDavid) and I am not paying that for 30 games, I can pick up a goalie in free agency for nothing.


If you’re not willing to pay for a goaltender than no matter if Lavoie is the second coming of Jesus or not, you are not winning anything with McDavid
Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
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If you’re not willing to pay for a goaltender than no matter if Lavoie is the second coming of Jesus or not, you are not winning anything with McDavid


Never said that, I am not willing to overpay for a goalie. That is exactly what I said. A late late 1st and B prospect and cap back is what I will pay
Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.
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It's closer to AHL. SHL is a cut above AHL and SHL teams get relegated to Allsvenskan while the top Allsvenskan teams can move up to SHL every year. So Allsvenskan isn't as good as a league, but it's not a full step down from SHL which is, again, better than the AHL.


Equivalency rating is around 0.3, AHL is 0.45, ECHL is slightly above 0.2
Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
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Yup he sure is, he tore up Junior as well. Which is a good thing. As long as he tears up everywhere he plays is good for me.


So...nothing on the goalie trades then, eh?
Mar. 9, 2021 at 2:53 p.m.
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So...nothing on the goalie trades then, eh?


Sorry I dont understand?
 
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