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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 21 at 3:50 a.m.
Thread: Re-Allocating Cap Space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalove</b></div><div>We aren’t interested in bringing in a partner for Power and then turning around &amp; flipping him
We’d be interested in a stable &amp; solid defensively partner for him, but that’s not Barrie
We’ve already found a guy we like paired with Dahlin (Samuelsson), and we aren’t even necessarily looking to upgrade on Jokiharju. We’re open to the idea, but it’s gotta be the right guy at the right price.

Barrie simply is not the “right” guy

We’d want someone more defensively oriented, and have zero interest in an offensive minded defenseman.

Sabres pass
Barrie just isn’t a fit for what we’re looking for</div></div>

And I can completely understand this logic as opposed to the above logic. I don’t believe the fit works with Barrie either but I could see it is an option if nothing else came up. Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read this.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 21 at 3:26 a.m.
Thread: Re-Allocating Cap Space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>No thanks from buffalo. Some reason Oiler fans dont understand how Barrie is a cap dump. Wait maybe you do understand that based on your title, and you just think we are giving up an asset for a cap dump.</div></div>

Not an Oilers fan but while I agree that Barrie has an unfavorable contract, there’s plenty of factors that go into what makes a player a cap dump and what beckons a cap dump trade. Nick Leddy was a cap dump last year but netted an asset as an analytically horrific defenseman. Teams bet on history and accolades and their ability to acclimate someone into their system and flip them if need be. The chances of hitting on a mid round pick and drafting someone who will make the NHL is a drastically small percentage. You take said mid round pick and flip it for what you deem to be valuable play or valuable off-ice traits. That’s why I didn’t make it a Barrie for a 2nd or 1st deal. I’m realistic in seeing his lack of value but his appeal to some teams and markets. For a team with cap space, taking a chance on Barrie for, let’s say a 4th round pick, is something you do. If it goes well or well enough, you’ll recoup that asset with retained salary at the deadline or even improve on it. Leddy received an asset for Detroit and Gostibehere for Arizona has been a steal.

I appreciate the comment and your taking the time to read this, however.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 21 at 3:02 a.m.
Thread: Re-Allocating Cap Space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KPM12</b></div><div>At 1.3 Ryan is a great b6 defensive fwd who isn’t completely inept on offense
7 yrs is risky of RNH but he’s definitely an upgrade from Carter and would fit Pitt well
Buf could take that or not take that, difficult to say
Arz takes that</div></div>

I appreciate the comment! Derek Ryan could definitely be kept in here instead of Bjugstad/Shore, I just wanted to make sure the cap space was enough for any bonuses or call-ups but I definitely agree there!

Nuge is definitely on a risky contract and I wanted to only do one 2nd round pick because of that but I don’t think that’d go over well here. Maybe a conditional pick instead. I think a team like Pittsburgh should be okay with a 7-year term there since by then, it won’t matter who’s on the team most likely. Only risk is if Nuge plays horrendously of course but that’s the gamble you take to upgrade over Carter who has two years more on his deal after his extension.

Buffalo would probably take it if they’re okay with the fit between Barrie and their LD. If not, maybe another team could be convinced by Barrie’s repertoire. Not sure as you said but I think it’s an interesting concept.

Thanks again for commenting and taking the time to read this!
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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 24 at 12:57 a.m.
Thread: JT Miller - DETAILED DESCRIPTION WITH ANALYTICS AND PROSPECT EVALUATIONS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cooliny</b></div><div>Yep. To first reply to another post - no chance Canucks take a chance on Zucker. Too expensive and doesn’t fit our group. He would be a plug but we already have a lot of those on our roster lol.

We paid the 9th overall and a 2nd for Garland, and although he doesn’t seem like that value anymore, anything less than the equivalent of the value of a 1st and an A/B+ prospect I’d rather keep him instead</div></div>

The only thing I’d say to that last part is that it was a different GM and you also paid that price in part to dump salary but granted you took on OEL. I think Vancouver should keep him as well. What you’d get on the market now, according to reports, wouldn’t justify trading him unless the salary cap demands it.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 24 at 12:52 a.m.
Thread: JT Miller - DETAILED DESCRIPTION WITH ANALYTICS AND PROSPECT EVALUATIONS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>In_it_to_winnik</b></div><div>Maybe Vancouver has interest in zucker? again just speculation but he has lways had strong play driving numbers and Vancouver is actually getting an analytics department. I feel like Zucker needs a change and hopefully could return to form.

Again this sounds dumb, but goalies like forsberg have some of those nights where he is lights out. There are always jokes about Toronto getting goalies by sub par goalies, yet it's not untrue. It would be a decent bet though. As you said, he can't be worse than Desmith.

I'd just never break up a solid top 4. Once you do that, you will always be looking for the next guy for Marino. Might get more than that for him in a trade tbh, big defenseman that can skate, pk and locked in on term aren't easy to get. But I understand the cap of it all.</div></div>

Zucker would be interesting for Vancouver but they are in a cap crunch and his extra year of term doesn’t help.

POJ is an interesting partner in concept for Marino which is why I’d be willing to trade Marcus. However, it’s a limited sample size and his lack of experience could hurt in the postseason. Josh Yohe of The Athletic also reported today that Hextall isn’t enamored with POJ and would be willing to move him. JR traded for him so that could be interesting although they don’t need LD!
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 24 at 12:47 a.m.
Thread: JT Miller - DETAILED DESCRIPTION WITH ANALYTICS AND PROSPECT EVALUATIONS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cooliny</b></div><div>This was a really good and well thought out post. Like Justaboss said, Pittsburgh has no quality prospects that Vancouver would want. So it's really hard just trying to brute force the value with sheer picks and mid-tier prospects. That being said, if Miller were to go to the Pens, Marino must the base going back cause he's the only player that meets Vancouver's needs. But this wouldn't make sense because it would destroy the right side of the Pens' defence, especially if Letang walks. This is a very good try, it just might be more fitting for Pittsburgh to try and go after Boeser or Garland with Kapanen and others because they don't have enough for Miller.</div></div>

I appreciate the comment! It would be interesting to do a Marino deal here, however as you said, there’s no replacement for him on that right side. I like the idea of Garland as a trade piece, however reports on his value is conflicting. The Athletic reports him as having much lower value on the market than he does for the Canucks do to his contract length which is tough to swallow in this cap era. And it doesn’t hurt that JT has the local storyline. Again, I appreciate the comment and feedback!
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 24 at 12:40 a.m.
Thread: JT Miller - DETAILED DESCRIPTION WITH ANALYTICS AND PROSPECT EVALUATIONS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Good effort on this.

My two cents are that I don't think ANA is that interested in bringing Pettersson back. He was traded to PIT due to LHD logjam, and the logjam is still there, to an extent. I think that as you said, this could only happen if ANA loses Lindholm to free agency. But if that happens then ANA is taking a step back in their retool, which also means that they might not be buying assets this time.

As for the VAN trade, I like the construction, but I think this offer can get outbid. PIT's prospect quality does not match to the likes of what NYR, or potentially COL, could offer VAN at this time.</div></div>

Thank you for the constructive criticism. I wasn’t sure who to trade Pete to as LD tends to be a common position for most teams to have an abundance of. I figured the Lindholm situation could be interesting especially if they acquire an extra pick in that package besides a first that they could then flip here for a replacement. Fair points though.

I know this offer would be outbid by most teams. I figured I’d show off what may arguably be the Pens’ best futures based package. The only thing to have hope for is JR and Alvin’s familiarity with these guys which people really overrate on here when a Pitt trade is made.

Thanks again for the comment!
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 24 at 12:31 a.m.
Thread: JT Miller - DETAILED DESCRIPTION WITH ANALYTICS AND PROSPECT EVALUATIONS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>In_it_to_winnik</b></div><div>You think they could get someone to take zucker? They have a lot of money tied up in the bottom 6. I just have always liked pettersson Marino as a pair, and don't think it would be that smart to break it up. I know how well that 3rd line has played though.

Forsberg has always intrigued me, but he seems like that type of goalie who just has good numbers on bad teams. I don't have real evidence to back it up, but some goalies have low expectations and do well

Jt Miller trade is decent, I don't see him going for as much as everyone is saying. Would be a great fit with Sid (but so is everyone)</div></div>

Thanks for the comment! I’ll answer each part.

1. I’m not sure someone will take Zucker unless he has a good playoff run which I think is possible. You could see him swapped for a D or traded with a pick for virtually nothing or bought out or kept if they can’t bring back a couple of the guys. I know that’s a lot of different scenarios but it’s hard to tell.

2. Forsberg is definitely a suspicious goalie to me. He’s 6’3” but plays super short in the net. He’s also reactionary rather than calm and stable. However, he twice beat Carolina with 40+ save performances, I believe and all three of Ottawas goalie have had 900+ save percentages since March 18th of last year! I’m willing to risk it due to it being success dating back to last year, as well. If not, how much worse can he be than DeSmith, not that he’s as bad as some people suggest, and hopefully he doesn’t need to play in the playoffs anyway!

3. I’d like to avoid getting rid of Pete so we can keep that pair but like you maybe alluded to, that forward line can be a game changer and I’d rather have four good lines and 5 good D than three good lines and 6 good D if that makes sense. And I also don’t think JT will go for as much as people say on here but I have to try to please the crowd to minimize the insults that I’ll get unfortunately lol. It’s tough to move a high salary guy in todays cap world and people tend to ignore that due to his point totals. I think he’d fit well with most of our centers and Sid especially. That would allow Jake to move to RW and Rust to play with Geno which has always been great! Interesting idea for sure
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