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Created by: Noah_PTB
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 17, 2021
Published: Mar. 17, 2021
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What gets the Pens Mantha?

We ideally dont want to move any 1st round picks.
It starts with Marcus Pettersson.

What else would you want us to add?
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:32 p.m.
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no need to add anything thats perfect
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Poulin or Poj + first
Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:35 p.m.
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I think pens need to add forsure; but tbh I think there is something here. Wings fans love to overrate Mantha but the reality is the dude has never even broken 50 points. Wings LHD is dreadful, and MP would be a young stabilizing force to play with Hronek or Seider. I think pens need to add something due to Mantha’s upside, but the base is certainly a good deal for both teams. Well done!
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.
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I would say a 1st or a mid tier prospect and a 2nd.
Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Ilya_Bryzgarlov_for_Vezina
no need to add anything thats perfect


laugh laugh Get real noway does Marcus Pettersson 1 for 1 get you Anthony Mantha. Tons of teams would offer Detroit by far better deal then Pettersson.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.
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Poulin or Poj + first


lmao for a guy whose best season is 48 points? Na. A package like that could get someone better
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
laugh laugh Get real noway does Marcus Pettersson 1 for 1 get you Anthony Mantha. Tons of teams would offer Detroit by far better deal then Pettersson.


sarcasm
Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:39 p.m.
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lmao for a guy whose best season is 48 points? Na. A package like that could get someone better


Thats fine, we are happy to keep him
Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
I think pens need to add forsure; but tbh I think there is something here. Wings fans love to overrate Mantha but the reality is the dude has never even broken 50 points. Wings LHD is dreadful, and MP would be a young stabilizing force to play with Hronek or Seider. I think pens need to add something due to Mantha’s upside, but the base is certainly a good deal for both teams. Well done!


Thank you! I definitely think something could get brewing here. Maybe the Pens add a 2nd round pick and someone like Gruden or even Legare. As much as I want to keep our picks and prospects, imagine Mantha playing alongside Malkin and Kapanen. That line would be ridiculous...
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:41 p.m.
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Quoting: mhockey91
I think pens need to add forsure; but tbh I think there is something here. Wings fans love to overrate Mantha but the reality is the dude has never even broken 50 points. Wings LHD is dreadful, and MP would be a young stabilizing force to play with Hronek or Seider. I think pens need to add something due to Mantha’s upside, but the base is certainly a good deal for both teams. Well done!

48 points in 67 games
38 points in 43 games

Yeah, let’s continue this 50 point narrative. If he stops fighting he’ll stay healthy. If you view him as a 50 point player why would Yzerman sell him?

I wouldn’t call MP a “stabilizing force” the dude is a 4D with potential but that goes both ways.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: BStinson
48 points in 67 games
38 points in 43 games

Yeah, let’s continue this 50 point narrative. If he stops fighting he’ll stay healthy. If you view him as a 50 point player why would Yzerman sell him?

I wouldn’t call MP a “stabilizing force” the dude is a 4D with potential but that goes both ways.


This is definitely a fair argument to be had. But again, isn't a top 4D plus a 2nd and a mid-tier prospect a pretty damn good offer for a guy who is yet to hit 50 points?
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: BStinson
48 points in 67 games
38 points in 43 games

Yeah, let’s continue this 50 point narrative. If he stops fighting he’ll stay healthy. If you view him as a 50 point player why would Yzerman sell him?

I wouldn’t call MP a “stabilizing force” the dude is a 4D with potential but that goes both ways.


If poj or poulin isn't in the deal we aren't trading him regardless
Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: BStinson
48 points in 67 games
38 points in 43 games

Yeah, let’s continue this 50 point narrative. If he stops fighting he’ll stay healthy. If you view him as a 50 point player why would Yzerman sell him?

I wouldn’t call MP a “stabilizing force” the dude is a 4D with potential but that goes both ways.



Mantha can’t stay healthy and he’s never proven he could continue that scoring pace. I view him currently as a 50-60 point player. He’s a good top 6 forward but nothing special. MP has room to grow and is very solid defensively. He would be an immediate fixture on your blue line. I already said pens add, but the base is definitely very fair.

50-60 point winger for a top 4D++
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:45 p.m.
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lmao for a guy whose best season is 48 points? Na. A package like that could get someone better


LMAO Yeah a guy that was on pace for 72 points until Muzzin slew footed him breaking his rib and costing him over 20 games.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Noah_PTB
This is definitely a fair argument to be had. But again, isn't a top 4D plus a 2nd and a mid-tier prospect a pretty damn good offer for a guy who is yet to hit 50 points?


No poj or poulin we aren't trading him, we will get our LD in the draft this year plus we have plenty of cap space to sign a different one if needed. It starts with one of those guys or we won't be dealing him
Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:46 p.m.
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TBH, there's really nothing the Pens can offer that would interest me besides Kapanen and their 1st. Petterrsson is good but is he better than whoever we draft and some of our prospects?

Maybe Pettersson, Kap and a 2nd? But why would we want to get rid of Mantha for that?

Either the Pens overpay (which they wont) or this doesn't happen....so it doesn't happen.
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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Poulin or Poj + first


No deal then, neither of those is even close to being something Pittsburgh can do
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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Petterson isnt bad. Had a good season last year but he doesn't have the offensive upside that id pay through the nose for. I'll take him but hes notbwhat id want in the center of a mantha deal.
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sarcasm


Okay sarcasm
Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:50 p.m.
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TBH, there's really nothing the Pens can offer that would interest me besides Kapanen and their 1st. Petterrsson is good but is he better than whoever we draft and some of our prospects?

Maybe Pettersson, Kap and a 2nd? But why would we want to get rid of Mantha for that?

Either the Pens overpay (which they wont) or this doesn't happen....so it doesn't happen.


What the hell? You want a younger forward with more points, a second, AND a top four Dman with term for mantha

Where the hell do you get off thinking that’s appropriate

Kapanen is alone worth more than mantha...
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.
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LMAO Yeah a guy that was on pace for 72 points until Muzzin slew footed him breaking his rib and costing him over 20 games.


Awesome. That package is getting a guy "who was on pace to score 72 points" So whats the excuse for every other year where he hasn't put up 50?
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:52 p.m.
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laugh laugh Get real noway does Marcus Pettersson 1 for 1 get you Anthony Mantha. Tons of teams would offer Detroit by far better deal then Pettersson.


Yeah apparently mantha, who has never broken 50 points is worth Petey, Kapanen AND a high pick lmao

I see why Detroit is going nowhere, the city exists in its own reality!
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: GuentzelvaniaUSA
What the hell? You want a younger forward with more points, a second, AND a top four Dman with term for mantha

Where the hell do you get off thinking that’s appropriate

Kapanen is alone worth more than mantha...


Good job not understanding what I wrote....yikes
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
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No deal then, neither of those is even close to being something Pittsburgh can do


That's fine, we are happy to keep him
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Mar. 17, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
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Awesome. That package is getting a guy "who was on pace to score 72 points" So whats the excuse for every other year where he hasn't put up 50?


Detroit Fans: Um. Um. He has a white stick like Joe Pavelski.
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