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Jack Eichel but in 2022-23

Created by: mhroblak
Initial Creation Date: May 10, 2021
Published: May 10 at 2:36
Team: 2022-23 New York Rangers
Team Explanation
I hate Eichel trades but I'm temporarily hopping on the bandwagon, because I think this perspective needs to be shown.

$12M to pay Lafreniere, Barron, Rooney, Richards, Miller, Jones, Kinkaid, and the 2 bench players. You be the judge on that.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Lundkvist, Nils2$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Buchnevich, Pavel4$5,500,000
Fox, Adam8$7,000,000
Richards, Justin1$800,000
Lindgren, Ryan2$3,000,000
Kravtsov, Vitali2$2,500,000
Shesterkin, Igor5$6,000,000
Deangelo, Anthony1$883,333
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Rooney, Kevin1$850,000
Kinkaid, Keith1$850,000
Zibanejad, Mika6$8,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Depth, Defenceman1$800,000
Depth, Forward1$800,000
Trades
NYR
  1. Eichel, Jack
BUF
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [RFA Rights]
  2. Chytil, Filip [RFA Rights]
  3. Schneider, Braden
  4. 2021 1st round pick (NYR)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
  • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
  • Brad Richards: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
NYR
BUF
NYR
LAK
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$82,030,217$0$5,032,500-$530,217
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$8,000,000
C
UFA
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
$5,500,000
RW, LW
RFA
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
$2,500,000
RW
RFA
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Barron, Morgan
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Richards, Justin
$800,000
C, RW
RFA
NYR
Cuylle, Will
$850,833
LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
$850,000
RW, C
UFA
NYR
Pajuniemi, Lauri
$883,750
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Fox, Adam
$7,000,000
RD
RFA
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
$6,000,000
G
RFA
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
NYR
Kinkaid, Keith
$850,000
G
UFA
NYR
Jones, Zachary
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYR
Lundkvist, Nils
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Depth, Forward
$800,000
Depth, Defenceman
$800,000
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
$883,333
RD
RFA

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May 10 at 2:39
#1
Shibbal18
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it starts at Laf, Chytil +
May 10 at 2:40
#2
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Eichel goes to Ducks
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Quoting: Shibbal18
it starts at Laf, Chytil +


No it doesn't, despite your constant and fervent pleas.
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May 10 at 2:43
#3
Shibbal18
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Quoting: mhroblak
No it doesn't, despite your constant and fervent pleas.


I dont plea, Im declaring. Eichel isnt getting moved for Dmen and 3rd liners
May 10 at 2:43
#4
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Eichel goes to Ducks
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I dont plea, Im declaring. Eichel isnt getting moved for Dmen and 3rd liners


LOL
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May 10 at 2:45
#5
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Good value, some may call it an overpay, but I think it's right on par with what his value is right now. Might (and probably will) get away with less than this.
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May 10 at 2:46
#6
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If Kakko takes a step forward, this is reasonable.
What is not reasonable is that fox contract. Rangers fans can’t be yelling that fox should win the Norris and then in the next breath say he should be paid less than Thomas chabot. 8 year deal? Probably 11 million. Maybe 10 if the rangers are lucky. If you want to keep the number at seven million, that’s a one or two year deal max.

6x7 for zibanejad is also wildly off. Over the past two years he is 5th in the league in goals per game, and that’s even with a very shaky start coming off getting covid. Last year he lead the league in goals per game. Does it sound like he’s signing the same deal that anders lee got? Don’t think so. Bump that up a bit, and now you’ve got yourself some cap hell once the contracts are appropriate.

Oh, and Deangelo won’t ever play for the rangers again. I think he’s likely done in the NHL.
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May 10 at 2:47
#7
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I think it's close to fair for Eichel

I love how ADA is still on the team

Rangers are in cap hellgrimace
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May 10 at 2:49
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Eichel goes to Ducks
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
If Kakko takes a step forward, this is reasonable.
What is not reasonable is that fox contract. Rangers fans can’t be yelling that fox should win the Norris and then in the next breath say he should be paid less than Thomas chabot. 8 year deal? Probably 11 million. Maybe 10 if the rangers are lucky. If you want to keep the number at seven million, that’s a one or two year deal max.

6x7 for zibanejad is also wildly off. Over the past two years he is 5th in the league in goals per game, and that’s even with a very shaky start coming off getting covid. Last year he lead the league in goals per game. Does it sound like he’s signing the same deal that anders lee got? Don’t think so. Bump that up a bit, and now you’ve got yourself some cap hell once the contracts are appropriate.


Fox is going to take a team-friendly deal if the Rangers are in cap hell with Eichel. I can understand Zibanejad getting $8M though. As a matter of fact I'll revise that
May 10 at 2:50
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Eichel goes to Ducks
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Quoting: Devil1122
I think it's close to fair for Eichel

I love how ADA is still on the team

Rangers are in cap hellgrimace


Lol that ADA deal is just a marker for the buyout dead money
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May 10 at 2:51
#10
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Quoting: mhroblak
Fox is going to take a team-friendly deal if the Rangers are in cap hell with Eichel. I can understand Zibanejad getting $8M though. As a matter of fact I'll revise that


Oh he is, is he? You know the guy? Did he tell you this? That is an absurd notion. Fox is going to get massively underpaid for his prime years because the rangers are in cap trouble? That’s the most naive thing I’ve heard in a while. Like I said, for a year or two? Maybe. Bridge contract at 7 million is okay. Max term involves him likely being the highest paid d man in the league.
May 10 at 2:53
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Oh he is, is he? You know the guy? Did he tell you this? That is an absurd notion. Fox is going to get massively underpaid for his prime years because the rangers are in cap trouble? That’s the most naive thing I’ve heard in a while. Like I said, for a year or two? Maybe. Bridge contract at 7 million is okay. Max term involves him likely being the highest paid d man in the league.


Sheesh... that really triggered you that much?
May 10 at 2:54
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Quoting: mhroblak
Sheesh... that really triggered you that much?


Quick question: do you think fox deserves to win the Norris this season?
May 10 at 2:54
#13
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I dont plea, Im declaring. Eichel isnt getting moved for Dmen and 3rd liners


unless LA comes to save you there will be nyr with lundkvist, chytil + or let him sit and depreciate and trade him for less next year
May 10 at 2:55
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Eichel goes to Ducks
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Quick question: do you think fox deserves to win the Norris this season?


Probably 2nd behind Cale Makar, but again, I'm not saying he's worth only $7M.
May 10 at 2:58
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Quoting: mhroblak
Probably 2nd behind Cale Makar, but again, I'm not saying he's worth only $7M.


Okay, so in this world you think he’s the second best defensemen in the national hockey league by merit. His agent comes to him and says, “good news Adam, just got an offer from the rangers that will take you to age 32! You’ll be the 17th highest paid d man in the league, and the second highest paid d man on your team! You aren’t quite making Aaron ekblad money, but i got you a couple hundred thousand more than provorov!” Fox should probably fire his agent for even bringing that offer to him.
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May 10 at 3:06
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Eichel goes to Ducks
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Okay, so in this world you think he’s the second best defensemen in the national hockey league by merit. His agent comes to him and says, “good news Adam, just got an offer from the rangers that will take you to age 32! You’ll be the 17th highest paid d man in the league, and the second highest paid d man on your team! You aren’t quite making Aaron ekblad money, but i got you a couple hundred thousand more than provorov!” Fox should probably fire his agent for even bringing that offer to him.


Strawman. How many times do I have to say he's not worth only $7m?
May 10 at 3:14
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Quoting: mhroblak
Strawman. How many times do I have to say he's not worth only $7m?


Then why is he signing it? And how much do you think he’s worth for 8 years.
May 10 at 3:17
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Quoting: nyr2022
unless LA comes to save you there will be nyr with lundkvist, chytil + or let him sit and depreciate and trade him for less next year


Id rather he play his contract out in the KHL than trade him for players they could find in Free agency
May 10 at 3:24
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Eichel goes to Ducks
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Then why is he signing it? And how much do you think he’s worth for 8 years.


- Already said it's based on his willing to sign a team-friendly deal. Still waiting to hear why that's even more naive than all the other BS that we've seen on this site for weeks. It's something I'd never bet that Fox would do, but it's something I wouldn't bet against either.
- Probably $9-9.5M, I'd say the same for Makar and McAvoy too
May 10 at 3:25
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Id rather he play his contract out in the KHL than trade him for players they could find in Free agency


@Klara
May 10 at 3:26
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Quoting: mhroblak
Klara


what are you referring to here?
May 10 at 3:28
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Quoting: Klara
what are you referring to here?


Chytil was on pace for 43p as 21 year old with good potential, if anyone counter argued that the 21 year old is only putting up .5p/gp, they would get laughed out of the room.

Apparently those players are free agency replaceable
May 10 at 3:31
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Quoting: mhroblak
Chytil was on pace for 43p as 21 year old with good potential, if anyone counter argued that the 21 year old is only putting up .5p/gp, they would get laughed out of the room.

Apparently those players are free agency replaceable


lol, of course, but then you get a 30 year old with a 4x4M contract, instead of having a 21 year old who will only continue to improve.
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May 10 at 3:32
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Quoting: mhroblak
Chytil was on pace for 43p as 21 year old with good potential, if anyone counter argued that the 21 year old is only putting up .5p/gp, they would get laughed out of the room.

Apparently those players are free agency replaceable


Quoting: Klara
lol, of course, but then you get a 30 year old with a 4x4M contract, instead of having a 21 year old who will only continue to improve.


Rodrigues was putting up .4 points per game, wont cost eichel, probably would only cost about a million
May 10 at 3:34
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Quoting: mhroblak
Fox is going to take a team-friendly deal if the Rangers are in cap hell with Eichel. I can understand Zibanejad getting $8M though. As a matter of fact I'll revise that


Considering Fox forced (for lack of a better term) his way out of two organizations to play for the Rangers, I think it's safe to assume he takes a discount. It's infuriating, I know, but it wouldn't surprise me one but if he signed an 8x8 deal.
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