Isles signed a goalie to qualify.

I don’t like the two year term with ghost I can’t get behind that while there is some form of hope about klef attempting a return. I get the price is fair from oilers perspective but personally don’t like it. If gudas was a good fit for a top pairing then Seattle in this scenerio would ask for a lot more. Not to sound totally negative on all of this there is a few things I do like

I would be extremely surprised if the Flyers take a goalie at 13. Not only do we have Hart who we fully expect to bounce back, but we will certainly be signing Felix Sandstrom who has looked pretty good the last couple years. Not to mention a highly talented goalie in Samuel Ersson who has had back to back tremendous seasons in the SHL, and a dark horse, Ivan Fedotov playing in the KHL. A tier below them is Matej Tomek, who has made leaps and bounds in the last several years since college.

I'm not saying that we are not looking for a backup OR that we are not gonna trade Ghost, but for a so so backup, I think there are better options on the market, as well Ghost's value going up a bit after his last half of the season. In a full season he would've had almost 20 goals, which is pretty impressive. His underlying stats were great as well.

Thanks for the input!

I think that the major benefit of that transaction is intangible -- namely, getting rid of Koskinen.

Other than Hall, Coleman and Palat, any ideas for LW?

Thanks for the input! I always like to hear from fans of teams I can't follow that well -- even the ones I used to hate.

Since I like your prospect pool and think Wallstedt is a cut above all the guys you've mentioned, some of whom are unsigned and/or foreign-based (and thus a teeny bit less likely to sign), I still think you may look at Wallstedt at 13. We'll see!

Absolutely, always nice to have hockey convos with other fans! To be honest, I think we have more of a chance of not even having that first, than making the pick. I think Fletcher gets aggressive and uses that pick if they don't absolutely love someone in the 10-20 tier of players. FWIW, if they do end up making a selection, I think our Goalie pool is deep enough that Chuck won't have to worry about it for another year or so, or spend a lesser valued pick on it.

Till next time!

I like the idea of Tatar he’s a good 5-5 scorer. Hyman has an interesting skill set would really like to add. Saad is another very interesting possibility he’s a good 5-5 producer but also has a bit of an edge to his game with lots of playoff experience which i do hold a lot of value on. One guy that is under a cheap contract I would absolutely love to get back is maroon just be a very complicated trade to work out

Saad and Hyman I discount because I think they're almost certain to re-sign with their current teams. I'm not sold on Tatar but I can certainly see the argument for acquiring him and, after all, I could be wrong.

I intended Crouse to be Maroon 2.0. For some reason, I don't like the idea of guys like Hall or Maroon returning to their old teams, which is weird because I loved seeing David Perron go back to St. Louis and Derek Grant come back to Anaheim.

That Arizona trade might be one of your biggest gaffes since we've crossed paths: the critics of Bear may be accurate in identifying he may be too raw or unprepared for consistent top-pairing use but to trade him for what otherwise works out to be a run-of-the-mill bottom-six forward (intentions to recreate Maroon or not) is incredibly poor, short-sighted recency bias. Bear is a young, controlled, top-4 RHD through and through. By definition this is one of the most sought-after commodities in the league. I'm not trading him for anything shy of a Beavillier-type.

When I made the Crouse+Hill+Midround pick for Jones and a 1st trade that many users here actually found worthwhile, Hill was the intended target. Crouse is an add-in as a reclamation project to account for the Coyotes not having (at the time) second round picks to redistribute. Edmonton and Arizona are both losing a piece of consequence in the expansion draft which that trade otherwise rectified while providing value in areas of weakness for each club. The trade itself did not insinuate that Crouse should be an Oilers' target nor was the purpose of that deal to indicate that Edmonton should be shedding young defencemen willy-nilly. The upcoming emergences of Broberg and Samorukov - plus a possible Klefbom return within the next calendar year - make Jones an expendable piece. He can be moved to address roster needs, Bear not so much. Neither Barrie or Bouchard are going to be looked at as penalty-killing defenders next season (Bouchard may *emerge* as one but he won't be seen as one at the onset) thus keeping Bear to be a minute-munching 5v5 piece that can PK when Larsson abdicates the ice for much-needed rest in itself provides more value than a one-for-one with Lawson coming the other way.

I think retained at 50% for a more bottom-of-the-roster piece you may be onto something with a Koskinen-to-the-Flyers trade. This is something I'll look to research more myself.

Holland will have Broberg, Holloway, and Lavoie to start in the AHL at minimum and I suspect all three get full seasons in California. Benson and Marody can fit as short-term shoe-ins if Old Dutch doesn't look to bring in Helm and/or Glendenning.

Thanks for both the input and the insight, Beter.

I don't like that you have the Oilers sending a pick to PHI to take an extra year of Gostisbehere, nor playing him in the top-4. He's a 3rd pairing PP specialist - something the Oilers have no need for.

Then you trade Bear for Crouse and justify it thus: "Trading Bear allows Edmonton to protect Jones in addition to Nurse and Gostisbehere..." So, the Oilers should protect Nurse (LHD), Gostisbehere (LHD), Jones (LHD), expect Klefbom (LHD) to remain untouched, when their top D prospects are Broberg (LHD) and Samorukov (LHD)? Notice a theme here? Never mind the fact that Bear is better and more valuable than either Gostisbehere or Jones, the L/R imbalance here is unbelievable.

I do like that TBL trade though. Make it so!

Gudas is a sheltered 3rd pairing defenseman. Not sure why you'd put him on 1st pair.

http://puckiq.com/woodmoney?season=20202021&tier=Elite&positions=d&team=fla&group_by=player_season_team&sort=ctoipct&sort_direction=desc

Thanks for your twin comments.

In my defense, I have a high opinion of Jones and took Edmonton fans' criticisms of Bear too much to heart. The input from you and Ever-Fan Beter has educated me. And I agree about the L-R imbalance. I thought about it when I was ready to post but went ahead anyway; I should really have given the Crouse-Bear idea more thought. Where were you when I made the suggestion in a comment (in an earlier thread)? You could have called me an idiot then and saved us all some time.

I still think Gudas would be an excellent partner for Nurse and if you buy the premise of acquiring him at all, I think that's who you play him with.

Since I like power forwards and AZ stands to lose a goalie, I proposed a swap of Crouse + Adin Hill for Jones + Kahun + Benson. That gives both teams a return for assets they otherwise could have lost for nothing and leaves Seattle picking between guys like Turris, Kassian and Russell.

I didn't get a single comment on that proposal, which I took as a compliment. (But more likely everyone here just has me on their Ignore list).

Heck everyone might be on everyone's ignore list

At this point

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I greatly appreciate the lack of RNH exten$$$ion here

Tough to see 7+M$ to that goalie duo that might well provide .905 all told idk exactly how to feel about Ullmark seems like he could just be solid overall

Stay well as well 👍

It's here it you're interested: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/453549

Not sure about that Philly deal could EDM retain if that 3rd pick would be removed or would Philly have to give a pick back for it to happen.

I do actually recall seeing that idea because it triggered my usual reflex-smart-ass comment that you can't trade a homeboy away from his hometown team (Benson), but I decided everyone's heard enough of that one so I refrained.

It's a good idea.