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Marner to the Canadiens

Created by: trademaster20
Published: Jun. 2, 2021 at 7:21 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 27/116 (23%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMontreal Canadiens

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $9,250,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $5,651,666
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Toffoli, TylerMontreal CanadiensNHL-$4,250,000111---0000--
Anderson, JoshMontreal CanadiensNHL-$5,500,000111---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Marner, MitchellToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$10,903,000111---0000--
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,598,3343548653814
Change-$1,153,000-1-1-1010
Final$2,445,334 (↓)34 (↓)47 (↓)64 (↓)39 (↑)14000

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $9,450,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $7,244,167
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Marner, MitchellToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$10,903,000111---0000--
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Toffoli, TylerMontreal CanadiensNHL-$4,250,000111---0000--
Anderson, JoshMontreal CanadiensNHL-$5,500,000111---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,205,833274973247
Change$1,153,0001110-10
Final$3,358,833 (↑)28 (↑)50 (↑)74 (↑)23 (↓)7000
Jun. 2, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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Toronto declines
Jun. 2, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.
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TOR hard NO

Anderson has a bad contract, and Toffoli's production could be an outlier. This isn't nearly the value of Marner
Jun. 2, 2021 at 9:49 p.m.
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Replace Anderson with Caufield (keeping Tofolli in due to contract and ability), take out the second from TO and MTL can add a pick or two. Then add Romanov.

Thank you for playing the Mitch Marner Sweepstakes
Jun. 3, 2021 at 9:24 a.m.
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Montréal no way...

Big guys Whit hand. Vs a Hobbit whit extra fear playoffs nan

Stay whit toff et. Anderson
Jun. 3, 2021 at 9:59 p.m.
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Montréal doesn’t want Marner for the same reasons that all these Leafs’ fans are yelling to be rid of him.
Jun. 3, 2021 at 10:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Obus777
Montréal no way...

Big guys Whit hand. Vs a Hobbit whit extra fear playoffs nan

Stay whit toff et. Anderson


Calling Marner a hobbit isn’t exactly an insult, and doesn’t make much sense. Marner isn’t short, and hobbits are proven to be noble and unexpectedly resilient.
Jun. 6, 2021 at 9:22 a.m.
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Just a joke. But i think it s marner dont like playoffs style

Sorry if traumatis you. smile
Jun. 6, 2021 at 10:29 p.m.
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Sir
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TOR hard NO

Anderson has a bad contract, and Toffoli's production could be an outlier. This isn't nearly the value of Marner


I am trying to figure out how someone calls Toffoli's numbers an outlier - LOL It's not like he has been in the league for 1 season - there is some previous years to give you an indication of what he can do. I mean 344pts in 577 games works out to just shy of 49pts per 82 games.

Many leaf fans want to see someone's head on a stake for the years and years of poor playoff performances - Marner is the whipping boy right now - everyone wants to move him, but many are unwilling to accept what may be value or what the team needs in return for him.
Jun. 7, 2021 at 9:32 a.m.
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I am trying to figure out how someone calls Toffoli's numbers an outlier - LOL It's not like he has been in the league for 1 season - there is some previous years to give you an indication of what he can do. I mean 344pts in 577 games works out to just shy of 49pts per 82 games.

Many leaf fans want to see someone's head on a stake for the years and years of poor playoff performances - Marner is the whipping boy right now - everyone wants to move him, but many are unwilling to accept what may be value or what the team needs in return for him.


Toffoli seasons is 100% an outlier. This is not saying is he bad. Toffoli is never finishing better than 7th in league scoring or touching (on pace) 44 goals in an 82 game season. Toffoli was on pace for almost 70 points this year, that is an outlier for a career 49 in 82.

This not being Marner's value is also because I hate Anderson's contract, he is an injury prone, flukey winger who is also hasn't been a good playoff performer. Hasn't done **** since game 1 on the whole playoffs. He also doesn't fit Toronto's style, we don't play on the rush, Josh Anderson is ONLY good on the rush. Kapanen is a great example of someone who plays heavily on the rush who performed much better on a rush playing team.

Also it doesn't matter how much the media ****s on him, GMs still know the value of a consistent 90 point player even if he has disappointed the last 3 playoffs. (Also on a cheap salary) (Salary is not caphit because of signing bonuses)
Jun. 7, 2021 at 11:30 a.m.
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Toffoli seasons is 100% an outlier. This is not saying is he bad. Toffoli is never finishing better than 7th in league scoring or touching (on pace) 44 goals in an 82 game season. Toffoli was on pace for almost 70 points this year, that is an outlier for a career 49 in 82.

This not being Marner's value is also because I hate Anderson's contract, he is an injury prone, flukey winger who is also hasn't been a good playoff performer. Hasn't done **** since game 1 on the whole playoffs. He also doesn't fit Toronto's style, we don't play on the rush, Josh Anderson is ONLY good on the rush. Kapanen is a great example of someone who plays heavily on the rush who performed much better on a rush playing team.

Also it doesn't matter how much the media ****s on him, GMs still know the value of a consistent 90 point player even if he has disappointed the last 3 playoffs. (Also on a cheap salary) (Salary is not caphit because of signing bonuses)


I think you may have missed my point - Toffoli you know what you are getting, as for your outlier, you are right his point per game production was up, but again we saw him perform better once he was out of LA (small sample size but 10pts in 10 games with Vancouver last year). Which may indicate that moving on from LA and the system allows him to do more etc. But never the less history has shown just shy of 50 pts per season.

I am by no means saying the leafs move Marner for this particular trade - first of all why would they move a gifted winger on a forward heavy team for 2 more forwards? Makes very little sense. But also understanding what you may get in return for Marner is key and what the team needs. Many leaf fans think they will land a guy like McDavid, which is stupid. Needless to say Marner isn't their problem and nor should he be moved.
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