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Hyman didnt reject a 5x5 deal offered by the Leafs

Created by: Kravtsov_Stan
Initial Creation Date: Jun 4, 2021
Published: Jun 4 at 11:38
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hyman, Zach4$6,000,000
Spezza, Jason1$750,000
Simmonds, Wayne1$1,500,000
Halák, Jaroslav1$2,500,000
Getzlaf, Ryan1$2,500,000
Trades
TOR
    SEA
    1. Kerfoot, Alexander
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
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    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2022
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    2023
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$80,404,783$0$400,000$1,095,217
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    TOR
    Hyman, Zach
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA
    TOR
    Matthews, Auston
    $11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Marner, Mitchell
    $10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Robertson, Nicholas
    $796,667
    LW
    RFA - 3
    TOR
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TOR
    Nylander, William
    $6,962,366
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    $1,645,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Getzlaf, Ryan
    $2,500,000
    C
    UFA
    TOR
    Spezza, Jason
    $750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Engvall, Pierre
    $1,250,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Brooks, Adam
    $725,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Simmonds, Wayne
    $1,500,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    TOR
    Muzzin, Jake
    $5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Brodie, TJ
    $5,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TOR
    Campbell, Jack
    $1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Rielly, Morgan
    $5,000,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TOR
    Holl, Justin
    $2,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Halák, Jaroslav
    $2,500,000
    G
    UFA
    TOR
    Sandin, Rasmus
    $894,167
    LD
    RFA - 1
    TOR
    Liljegren, Timothy
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    Jun 4 at 11:39
    #1
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    They'd be better off letting him walk then, he isnt worth a penny more than that
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    Jun 4 at 11:41
    #2
    Ovchinnikov 137
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    Quoting: Salzy
    They'd be better off letting him walk then, he isnt worth a penny more than that


    absolutely, that contract will not age well. Who ever signs him to 5mil or more will regret it
    Jun 4 at 11:41
    #3
    Why Waddell
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    Let him walk. If he won't take 5 mil, he's not worth keeping.
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    Jun 4 at 11:42
    #4
    Ovchinnikov 137
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    Quoting: Dzinger18
    Let him walk. If he won't take 5 mil, he's not worth keeping.


    IMO something around 4.5 to 4.8 should get it done. But he we wants 5 no chance
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    Jun 4 at 11:43
    #5
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    Quoting: MatthewsFan
    absolutely, that contract will not age well. Who ever signs him to 5mil or more will regret it


    Yup, 100% they will, Hyman is a good player and important to the Leafs but the second he signs for anything over 4M (imo) he is negative value to the team. The most valuable part of Hymans game is how cheap his last deal was, I wouldnt pay him over 4.5M, Leafs should go sign Coleman or Goodrow at that point, players like that arent worth north of 5
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    Jun 4 at 11:45
    #6
    Why Waddell
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Yup, 100% they will, Hyman is a good player and important to the Leafs but the second he signs for anything over 4M (imo) he is negative value to the team. The most valuable part of Hymans game is how cheap his last deal was, I wouldnt pay him over 4.5M, Leafs should go sign Coleman or Goodrow at that point, players like that arent worth north of 5


    Yeah, Coleman or Goodrow would be great with the leafs. They also add grit. I'm not supposed to be saying good things about the lightning right now since we're playing them, but I really like the gritty scoring style those two have.
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    Jun 4 at 11:45
    #7
    Ovchinnikov 137
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Yup, 100% they will, Hyman is a good player and important to the Leafs but the second he signs for anything over 4M (imo) he is negative value to the team. The most valuable part of Hymans game is how cheap his last deal was, I wouldnt pay him over 4.5M, Leafs should go sign Coleman or Goodrow at that point, players like that arent worth north of 5


    If he goes the FA route there will be a team that gives him north of 5. That's just nuts
    Jun 4 at 11:47
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    Quoting: Dzinger18
    Yeah, Coleman or Goodrow would be great with the leafs. They also add grit. I'm not supposed to be saying good things about the lightning right now since we're playing them, but I really like the gritty scoring style those two have.


    I even like a possible addition of Viktor Arvidsson. He's injury history worries but signed at a nice cap(4.25) hit for three more years
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    Jun 4 at 11:52
    #9
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    No, he didn't.


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    Jun 4 at 11:53
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    thats a pretty weak and old roster above, and that 3rd pairing is very young.

    Depends what you think this years team problem was.

    I think it was very weak depth on 6-13th forwards and the lineup above is worse
    Jun 4 at 11:58
    #11
    Lenny7
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    You don't pay a guy like Hyman $5+ mil a year for the unique qualities that he brings to the roster. You find the next Hyman. Very solid player, and definitely deserving to get paid (by someone), but handcuffing yourself to him because of "Heart and grit!!!" when there's more pressing issues on this roster seems like p1ss poor management. Again, he's skilled, but when someone breaks the bank on him, they'll regret it in 2-3 years.
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    Jun 4 at 12:01
    #12
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    Literally said it's just a rumor he heard and he doesn't know if it's accurate, which it is now seeming like it wasn't.
    Jun 4 at 12:02
    #13
    Lenny7
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    Quoting: mondo
    No, he didn't.




    I refuse to take anything that someone from the TO Sun writes seriously. If it's true that it didn't happen, great, but the Sun isn't exactly known for truths...
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    Jun 4 at 12:03
    #14
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    Kravtsov_Stan
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    Quoting: mondo
    No, he didn't.




    My bad didnt see this
    Jun 4 at 12:03
    #15
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    I refuse to take anything that someone from the TO Sun writes seriously. If it's true that it didn't happen, great, but the Sun isn't exactly known for truths...


    Koshan is their only good reporter.
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    Jun 4 at 12:03
    #16
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    Quoting: mondo
    No, he didn't.




    fixed
    Jun 4 at 12:04
    #17
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    I refuse to take anything that someone from the TO Sun writes seriously. If it's true that it didn't happen, great, but the Sun isn't exactly known for truths...


    Frank Seravalli has said it's inaccurate.
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    Jun 4 at 12:06
    #18
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    Quoting: Kravtsov_Stan
    My bad didnt see this


    Frank Seravalli was only speculating on a rumor, which in this city is essentially treated as fact.

    5 million is the maximum I'd like to see him re-signed for.
    Jun 4 at 12:07
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    Jun 4 at 12:08
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    Lenny7
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    Quoting: mondo
    Koshan is their only good reporter.


    Fair enough. I stopped following any of them because I wanted to cut my eyes out every time I read their crap tears of joy
    Jun 4 at 12:09
    #21
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    Quoting: mondo
    Frank Seravalli was only speculating on a rumor, which in this city is essentially treated as fact.

    5 million is the maximum I'd like to see him re-signed for.


    It wasn't even Seravalli. It was Jason Gregor, who literally said he doesn't know if it's true. Man, sh*t gets out of hand quickly.
     
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