Quality and tactful AGM ✔

Boqvist + 18th overall in a sketchy draft, yikes 😐

Everyone seems down on Ellis recently but why?

Was on pace for his usual 40+ pts/plus Corsi ​ho hum

I'd recommend 1 more year before $$$harangovich

I’m very interested in Boqvist if the Devils are considering to cut his leash, but it is concerning he’s almost 23 and hasn’t really shown himself as an NHLer.

I’d bet people are just realizing Ellis could be a target but haven’t really taken into account his contract. This would probably need to add at least a 2nd, if not a 1st. However, I think this would be a fair return for Ekholm.

Avs decline. They aren’t trading their top prospects for 3rd line wingers

I wouldn't mind the Ellis trade but rather trade for Fabbro who fits the timeline of the rebuild

On the Ellis front, I think some Preds fans are looking at RD with Carrier, Fabbro, and Benning, and wondering if we can improve the top 6 by moving Ellis. It would be a huge change to the core of the team and requires Fabbro to take a big leap from recent play. Personally, I'd rather look at moving Ellis for Konecny.

NSH and COL are easy no’s. How do you know when a prospect has little value, when a non playoff team’s ACGM’s include him in just about every trade. And let’s be honest if there were a redraft of the 2020 draft Barron is going a lot higher just like his stock was before his health issue which was resolved. There isn’t any rational team that is paying a 1st and 3rd for Woods and a 5th. This is epically bad.

I think Fabbro would be more expensive, to be honest.
Here, they kill a few birds with one stone - salary, expansion, getting younger.
They aren't going to pay up to move their centers...I don't think they are in that hard of a spot.

Boqvist was all over the place last year.
Called up, sent down, called up, back down. Plays LW, plays RW. 1st line, 4th line. Up, down, left, right, in, out...
In the last month or two this year, they gave him a specific role (3c) and stuck him there.
He really stepped up.
He has nothing left to prove in SHL or AHL.
Just needs a little stability and the confidence that comes with that.

This is my understanding as well. I think he’s worth taking a swing on, but the concerns are there and big enough to not be the main piece in an Ellis deal.

I know we’ve talked about a Greenway-Boqvist deal in the past and I’m hoping for that….

Maybe include Kuokkanen as the starting piece for Fabbro

The hardest part of ACGM....are fans of good teams confusing their teams success with their own hockey knowledge.
Be humble.

I don't recall...I think I have only been a part Boqvist deals with Wild that were for d-men.

I think that would be perfect if Kuok were expansion-exempt.
There is some value to having a guy who is (a) exempt; (b) on ELC; and (c) able to play now.
And ultimately, I'd think scouts would value Kuok and Boqvist's future production as similar.

Could have been, I recall seeing the avatar and seeing that there could be a fit with both teams.

If the trade (Kuok+ for Fabbro) happens before the expansion draft, Preds could go 7/3/1 to protect their forwards which would be perfect for them. Devils would be able to protect Bastian.

I think Kuokkanen might have more value right now since he's more proven.

Nah my point being when prospects crop up as the supposed main interest or enticement in a lot of ACGM’s you know that prospect is trending in the wrong direction, it was like for a period where it seemed every PIT trade included Riccola(sp?).

There has been interest in Boqvist because he is expansion-exempt and played well down the stretch.
He put numbers in SHL and AHL and is just catching his stride in NHL.
Not because his window is closing or he is some flash in the pan.

Miles Wood (note, its "Wood" not "Woods") has been getting interest because he is a big, young, cheap, physical winger who is one of the fastest skaters in NHL and is coming off a season with 17 goals (a 25-goal pace over 82).
He is not some sort of fading prospect.

I know it is Wood. He is a 3rd liner, that doesn’t net you a top prospect and a pick. Regardless I wasn’t talking about him I was talking about Boqvist. Sure guys develop later than others but he’s 4yrs removed from being drafted and not a regular on a non playoff team. I’m not disparaging him, or your ACGM I’m just pointing out is he doesn’t have much value because teams are littered with guys like him. Heck you signed a guy I hoped would turn out for COL in Greer. Sorry if it came across as something else.

You are comparing Greer with Boqvist?
Greer was a throw-in on Palmieri deal so that Islanders didn't go over contract limit.
Depth AHL guy.

I’m comparing Greer to Boqvist because he was a 2nd rd pick too a year before, Greer was great in the AHL posting .81ppg and 0.68ppg he just couldn’t make the leap. I’m not saying they are the same player but it’s been 4yrs since he was drafted, COL traded Greer after 4 seasons. Everybody has a soft spot for their teams prospects, I just see Boqvist and it just reminds me of Greer a 2nd rd pick that showed real potential in the AHL who couldn’t make the step. For that reason I just don’t see him having much value is all.

4-years after being selected with 30-something pick, only broken into NHL on part-time basis, I agree.
You have me convinced its time to move on.

So we will gladly take Conor Timmins for 5th round pick.

Except Connor Timmins is playing a regular shift in the NHL on a Stanley cup contender. You want to disagree disagree. Don’t be a snarky smart a$$ because you don’t like it. But yeah that was a good try.

Timmins is playing 10 minutes a game filling in for an injured player.
Boqvist was the Devils 3c to end the season, playing regularly.

Timmins has added value as expansion-exempt player...so does Boqvist.

Timmins averaged 13:33 this season. Timmins missed basically 18 months with concussion issues, beginning in his draft plus 1 year after initially making the Avs as an 18yr old. Which led to the Avs basically restricting his activity for 2 seasons. But you make a valid point about being exempt.