Surprise Eichel Team

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Created by: Caboose119z

Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 17, 2021

Published: Jun. 17, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

C - Larkin
A - Gagner
A - DeKeyser

I believe this is an overpayment and don't think the Wings are truly in on Eichel.
Is Zegras and 3rd overall considered enough from the Ducks?

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler	4	$4,500,000
Cholowski, Dennis	1	$900,000
Erne, Adam	2	$1,500,000
Hronek, Filip	5	$5,000,000
Pearson, Chase	1	$900,000
Rasmussen, Michael	2	$1,500,000
Smith, Givani	1	$900,000
Svechnikov, Evgeny	1	$900,000
Vrána, Jakub	1	$4,500,000
Verbeek, Hayden	1	$800,000
Lindström, Gustav	1	$900,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Reilly, Mike	3	$3,000,000
Gagner, Sam	1	$1,250,000
Bernier, Jonathan	2	$3,750,000

Trades

DET

SEA

Namestnikov, Vladislav

DET

Eichel, Jack

BUF

DET

Neal, James
2021 1st round pick (EDM)

EDM

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$68,913,056	$0	$1,700,000	$12,586,944

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Vrána, Jakub $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 3	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 5	Bertuzzi, Tyler $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Fabbri, Robby $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 2	Zadina, Filip $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1
Erne, Adam $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Rasmussen, Michael $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, C UFA - 3	Gagner, Sam $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, C UFA - 1
	Pearson, Chase $900,000$900,000 C UFA - 1	Neal, James $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Smith, Givani $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Cholowski, Dennis $900,000$900,000 LD RFA - 1	Hronek, Filip $5,000,000$5,000,000 RD RFA - 3	Bernier, Jonathan $3,750,000$3,750,000 G UFA - 2
Reilly, Mike $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3	Greiss, Thomas $3,600,000$3,600,000 G UFA - 1
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Stecher, Troy $1,700,000$1,700,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Svechnikov, Evgeny $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Nielsen, Frans $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Lindström, Gustav $900,000$900,000 RD RFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Eichel, J.		Bertuzzi, T.		Vrána, J.
	Larkin, D.		Seider, M.

Power Play 2
Hronek, F.		Rasmussen, M.		Zadina, F.
	Fabbri, R.		Cholowski, D.

Penalty Kill 1
	Rasmussen, M.	Gagner, S.
	DeKeyser, D.	Stecher, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Larkin, D.	Bertuzzi, T.
	Hronek, F.	Seider, M.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 2:27 p.m.

DeadWingsv2

PlusMinus is stupid

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Detroit should not be in on Eichel, makes no sense for where we are in the rebuild.

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 2:28 p.m.

JustWinginit

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If this would be the price of acquiring Eichel then I wouldn't make the deal. Also Anaheim won't trade Zegras.

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 2:28 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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It's not an overpayment, but I've seen much worse offers.

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 2:37 p.m.

redw1n9s

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Not even close to enough. How is this an overpayment?

Raymond - top tier prospect
Veleno - middle of the road prospect
Panik - worthless in this context
1st - non-NHL ready player that won't be able to replace Eichel.

Trade for Eichel looks like Larkin and a 1st or Seider +

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.

Shibbal18

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littlejerryseinfeld: It's not an overpayment, but I've seen much worse offers.

I came here to say exactly this^

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 2:41 p.m.

Shibbal18

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Quoting: JustWinginit

If this would be the price of acquiring Eichel then I wouldn't make the deal. Also Anaheim won't trade Zegras.

Anahiem wouldnt trade Zegras for Dubois, they said nothing about Eichel. Eichel > Dubois

Jun. 17, 2021 at 2:51 p.m.

JustWinginit

Joined: May 2021

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Anahiem wouldnt trade Zegras for Dubois, they said nothing about Eichel. Eichel > Dubois

I would assume Buffalo wouldn't accept a 1 for 1 deal for Zegras. Zegras plus assets no longer makes sense for Anaheim and obviously the deal needs to make sense for both sides. This is the same reason Detroit wouldn't make this suggested trade because it wouldn't make sense.

Jun. 17, 2021 at 3:25 p.m.

Shibbal18

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Quoting: JustWinginit

When Eichel was 20 he had played 142 games and had 113 points. Zegras is 100 points shy. Zegras isnt on Eichels level. People need to stop over hyping prospects and disrespecting Eichel just because they think its funny to screw the Sabres.

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Jun. 17, 2021 at 6:59 p.m.

Stevierebz

Steve

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This would be a good offer IMO, I’d prefer (as a Wings fan) to trade Berggeren, a D prospect (mcissac or Viro maybe), and a 2nd rounder over Raymond but that’s me. The problem is Buf fans on here will never consider a Eichel trade even though he’s all but gone, so you won’t get a accurate assessment of what a fair offer is.

Jun. 18, 2021 at 9:08 a.m.

#10

redw1n9s

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Quoting: Stevierebz

Berggren, McIsaac, and a 2nd rounder for Eichel? LOL

Jun. 19, 2021 at 12:09 p.m.

#11

Stevierebz

Steve

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Quoting: redw1n9s

Berggren, McIsaac, and a 2nd rounder for Eichel? LOL

No; Veleno, Berg, Mcissac, 1st, & 2nd. I was just replacing Raymond in his orig trade

Jun. 19, 2021 at 8:20 p.m.

#12

HypotheticalImpossibility

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

Detroit should not be in on Eichel, makes no sense for where we are in the rebuild.

100% this. Detroit doesn't have enough high quality assets to land Eichel, and doesn't have the NHL-ready talent to support him if he arrived. Trading anything at all for Eichel would put Detroit stuck as a playoff bubble team at best.

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Jun. 19, 2021 at 9:25 p.m.

#13

jtuf93

Wings sufferer

Joined: Jun. 2017

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I think you replace Panik with WSH 2021 1st or maybe conditional 2022 2nd that could become a first and it might work

Jun. 21, 2021 at 8:31 a.m.

#14

redw1n9s

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Quoting: Stevierebz

No; Veleno, Berg, Mcissac, 1st, & 2nd. I was just replacing Raymond in his orig trade

Still not even remotely close for Eichel.

Jun. 22, 2021 at 10:52 a.m.

#15

Stevierebz

Steve

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Quoting: redw1n9s

Still not even remotely close for Eichel.

Yea, prob right. That’s why I think the wings are not in the Eichel sweepstakes; the cost is too high

Jun. 22, 2021 at 11:12 a.m.

#16

redw1n9s

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Quoting: Stevierebz

Yea, prob right. That’s why I think the wings are not in the Eichel sweepstakes; the cost is too high

Correct - No chance they end up with Eichel.

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