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Eichel and Reinhart trades

Created by: Snowbelle4444
Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 26, 2021
Published: Jun. 26, 2021
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Trades
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BUF
  1. Glass, Cody
  2. Krebs, Peyton
  3. Smith, Reilly
  4. 2021 1st round pick (VGK)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
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  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
  3. 2022 1st round pick (VAN)
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2022 first is top 2 protected. Loui waives NTC.
VAN
  1. Pilut, Lawrence [Reserve List]
  2. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Sam agrees to extension immediately after trade. Pilut returns to the NHL.
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:13 p.m.
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Sabres are getting more than that if Reinhart is signed
Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:19 p.m.
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Sabres are getting more than that if Reinhart is signed


Lmao. No they're not. I get that Eriksson is a cap dump but he can be bought out for only $875K less than his cap hit (if he's buried in the minors). & there's no chance Buffalo gets multiple 1sts for Reinhart 😂
Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:20 p.m.
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Vancouver is getting more than that if giving up 2 first round picks
Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.
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Vancouver is getting more than that if giving up 2 first round picks


Reinhart was on pace for 35-40 goals last season as a 25 year old. If he signs immediately it is definitely going to cost 2 1sts.
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.
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I cant see vancouver giving up multiple first round picks. I mean if eriksson is gonna waive his ntc to play in rochester or be bought out by buffalo, sure, im in.
Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:25 p.m.
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Reinhart was on pace for 35-40 goals last season as a 25 year old. If he signs immediately it is definitely going to cost 2 1sts.


On pace and actually are 2 different things, he's broken 50 points once in his career and never more than 25 goals. No team is giving Buffalo 2 first round picks
Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.
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loui is not waking a ntc to go to the worst team in the league
Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
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Quoting: pasha123
On pace and actually are 2 different things, he's broken 50 points once in his career and never more than 25 goals. No team is giving Buffalo 2 first round picks


The dude hasn't hit his prime and he was playing on the worst team in the league. Not smart to compare his younger years when he was only 22 or 23 years old. 2 1sts and a cap dump is exactly his value at that age. Adding in a solid prospect like Pilut is honestly too much for Buffalo to give.
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:37 p.m.
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quote=Snowbelle4444;2460120]The dude hasn't hit his prime and he was playing on the worst team in the league. Not smart to compare his younger years when he was only 22 or 23 years old. 2 1sts and a cap dump is exactly his value at that age. Adding in a solid prospect like Pilut is honestly too much for Buffalo to give.[/quote]

prime and he was playing on the worst team in the league. Not smart to compare his younger years when he was only 22 or 23 years old. 2 1sts and a cap dump is exactly his value at that age. Adding in a solid prospect like Pilut is honestly too much for Buffalo to give.[/quote]

LE dump isn't a 1st, Pilut isn't a solid prospect he's 25 and still in KHL. Brock Boeser has a better shot than Sam yet he also hasn't hit 30 goals. No that trade isn't fair value. If that's too much to give then it's most definitely too much from Vancouver
Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:45 p.m.
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On pace and actually are 2 different things, he's broken 50 points once in his career and never more than 25 goals. No team is giving Buffalo 2 first round picks


I hate when people say crap like that. It’s like when they talk about guys scoring goals and having the potential to score 60 or crap like that. Until it happens it’s a load of bull, especially considering it’s only been done twice in the past 20 years (shoutout to Ovi and Stammer).
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:46 p.m.
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quote=Snowbelle4444;2460120]The dude hasn't hit his prime and he was playing on the worst team in the league. Not smart to compare his younger years when he was only 22 or 23 years old. 2 1sts and a cap dump is exactly his value at that age. Adding in a solid prospect like Pilut is honestly too much for Buffalo to give.


prime and he was playing on the worst team in the league. Not smart to compare his younger years when he was only 22 or 23 years old. 2 1sts and a cap dump is exactly his value at that age. Adding in a solid prospect like Pilut is honestly too much for Buffalo to give.[/quote]

LE dump isn't a 1st, Pilut isn't a solid prospect he's 25 and still in KHL. Brock Boeser has a better shot than Sam yet he also hasn't hit 30 goals. No that trade isn't fair value. If that's too much to give then it's most definitely too much from Vancouver[/quote]
Pilut isn't in the KHL because of lack of skill. He left the NHL on his own accord because the team was so bad. He's a very solid prospect who just wants a chance to succeed in the league. Never said LE was worth a 1st alone. Boeser isn't playing on the worst team in the league so if he can't score 30 on the Canucks he's definitely never doing that on a team like Buffalo. Reinhart's shooting pct was better than Brock's last season and he was on a much worse team.
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:47 p.m.
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I hate when people say crap like that. It’s like when they talk about guys scoring goals and having the potential to score 60 or crap like that. Until it happens it’s a load of bull, especially considering it’s only been done twice in the past 20 years (shoutout to Ovi and Stammer).


comparing 60 goals to a typical 35 goal season isn't the same. What Reinhart was doing was very feasible.
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:48 p.m.
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quote=Snowbelle4444;2460120]The dude hasn't hit his prime and he was playing on the worst team in the league. Not smart to compare his younger years when he was only 22 or 23 years old. 2 1sts and a cap dump is exactly his value at that age. Adding in a solid prospect like Pilut is honestly too much for Buffalo to give.


prime and he was playing on the worst team in the league. Not smart to compare his younger years when he was only 22 or 23 years old. 2 1sts and a cap dump is exactly his value at that age. Adding in a solid prospect like Pilut is honestly too much for Buffalo to give.[/quote]

LE dump isn't a 1st, Pilut isn't a solid prospect he's 25 and still in KHL. Brock Boeser has a better shot than Sam yet he also hasn't hit 30 goals. No that trade isn't fair value. If that's too much to give then it's most definitely too much from Vancouver[/quote]

Eriksson is a $6 million dump. He’s not even worth wasting a roster spot on. Next year‘s first round pick is the cost of taking on that $6 million for you. Reinhart is worth more than this year‘s first round pick, so I would think Vancouver needs to add a forward prospect, especially if they’re also getting the rights to Pilut. He’s a pretty darn good player who just wasn’t getting the opportunity to play in Buffalo.
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:49 p.m.
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comparing 60 goals to a typical 35 goal season isn't the same. What Reinhart was doing was very feasible.


There’s no precedence for him being able to do it in the past, until he shows he is actually capable of doing so, talk is cheap.
Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:54 p.m.
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Lmao. No they're not. I get that Eriksson is a cap dump but he can be bought out for only $875K less than his cap hit (if he's buried in the minors). & there's no chance Buffalo gets multiple 1sts for Reinhart 😂


Reinhart by himself wouldn't get multiple 1sts, but you're adding Eriksson with it. He'll still count 4M against the cap if you buy him out, plus a 1M cap hit next year too. This is the flat cap era. Dumping contracts ain't cheap. It would be at minimum a 2021st + 2022 2nd + a prospect.
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:55 p.m.
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There’s no precedence for him being able to do it in the past, until he shows he is actually capable of doing so, talk is cheap.


on pace for 30+ just last season.
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
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I hate when people say crap like that. It’s like when they talk about guys scoring goals and having the potential to score 60 or crap like that. Until it happens it’s a load of bull, especially considering it’s only been done twice in the past 20 years (shoutout to Ovi and Stammer).


So Kakko is pretty much trash because he's never broken 25 points.
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Jun. 26, 2021 at 7:58 p.m.
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prime and he was playing on the worst team in the league. Not smart to compare his younger years when he was only 22 or 23 years old. 2 1sts and a cap dump is exactly his value at that age. Adding in a solid prospect like Pilut is honestly too much for Buffalo to give.


LE dump isn't a 1st, Pilut isn't a solid prospect he's 25 and still in KHL. Brock Boeser has a better shot than Sam yet he also hasn't hit 30 goals. No that trade isn't fair value. If that's too much to give then it's most definitely too much from Vancouver[/quote]

Eriksson is a $6 million dump. He’s not even worth wasting a roster spot on. Next year‘s first round pick is the cost of taking on that $6 million for

Don't worry LE won't waive for Buffalo cuz it's only 3 million that he's getting not 6million.. A 1st is not the cost for 6 avv and 3 Mil actual, the cost at most is next yrs 2nd. If not van will bury him ,keep next yrs 1st and may draft 25 goal 50 point forward with their pick ala Reinhart.
If Buffalo can get LA 1st or OTT 1st this year than fantastic. But no other team in this years top 10 is gonna give more than that. Feel free to bookmark this. If I'm wrong I'll give you your props. Btw I like Reinhart.
Jun. 26, 2021 at 8:00 p.m.
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So Kakko is pretty much trash because he's never broken 25 points.


I’ve never once said anything about him being better than he is. And I never called Reinhart trash so I don’t know what your getting at.
Jun. 26, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.
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on pace for 30+ just last season.


But did he do it?
Jun. 26, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.
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But did he do it?


you asked if he had the ability to do it in the past and he has....
Jun. 26, 2021 at 8:02 p.m.
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prime and he was playing on the worst team in the league. Not smart to compare his younger years when he was only 22 or 23 years old. 2 1sts and a cap dump is exactly his value at that age. Adding in a solid prospect like Pilut is honestly too much for Buffalo to give.


LE dump isn't a 1st, Pilut isn't a solid prospect he's 25 and still in KHL. Brock Boeser has a better shot than Sam yet he also hasn't hit 30 goals. No that trade isn't fair value. If that's too much to give then it's most definitely too much from Vancouver[/quote]
Pilut isn't in the KHL because of lack of skill. He left the NHL on his own accord because the team was so bad. He's a very solid prospect who just wants a chance to succeed in the league. Never said LE was worth a 1st alone. Boeser isn't playing on the worst team in the league so if he can't score 30 on the Canucks he's definitely never doing that on a team like Buffalo. Reinhart's shooting pct was better than Brock's last season and he was on a much worse team.[/quote]

Exactly Reinhart had an uncharacteristicly higher than normal shooting pct. That's not his norm, it's a one off. Boeser finally has is strength and shot back he may get over 30 next yr and on Buff to as he'd be the best shooter, but Sam on Van won't
Jun. 26, 2021 at 8:05 p.m.
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I’ve never once said anything about him being better than he is. And I never called Reinhart trash so I don’t know what your getting at.


He's just never broken 25 points. Kind of a bust don't you think?
Jun. 26, 2021 at 8:06 p.m.
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But did he do it?


and teams don't value players by total points. They look at the underlying stats and charts and his numbers check out well (unlike Ristolainen). This is just an excuse to undervalue the talent he is.
Jun. 26, 2021 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: LindyRuffRider
Reinhart by himself wouldn't get multiple 1sts, but you're adding Eriksson with it. He'll still count 4M against the cap if you buy him out, plus a 1M cap hit next year too. This is the flat cap era. Dumping contracts ain't cheap. It would be at minimum a 2021st + 2022 2nd + a prospect.


Lol ask Detroit what they got last year for their 1 year cap dump they took. Yzerman must feel stupid then.
BTW no that isn't the cost.
 
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