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@Mhockey you've been wrong about fleury for so longgggg

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This guy came on the site, claiming fleury (2 second round picks) was with more than Andersen(A second round pick). Stop calling people stupid when you have been wrong all along. You have been exposed. Andersen was worth a first and you won't get much for fleury.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/20506/1#p_26003

Stop calling people stupid and being arrogant over armchair gm. You're too biased to realize fleury is not worth much. Get over it take the L.
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Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:37 p.m.
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I will remember this post for when Fleury is traded at deadline. if pens were to have traded Fleury in the summer he would've most definitely fetched a pair of 2nd round picks. Rutherford on the other hand was too stubborn and wanted nothing less then a high first round pick. Do some research before you try to blast people
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:38 p.m.
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I will remember this post for when Fleury is traded at deadline.


Yea make sure you don't delete your account
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:42 p.m.
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I will remember this post for when Fleury is traded at deadline. if pens were to have traded Fleury in the summer he would've most definitely fetched a pair of 2nd round picks. Rutherford on the other hand was too stubborn and wanted nothing less then a high first round pick. Do some research before you try to blast people


It doesn't matter what Rutherford wants. Its what other people are willing to give up for a player on the downhill of his career and isn't even starting anymore. Maybe you should take off the pens blinders.
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:45 p.m.
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I will remember this post for when Fleury is traded at deadline. if pens were to have traded Fleury in the summer he would've most definitely fetched a pair of 2nd round picks. Rutherford on the other hand was too stubborn and wanted nothing less then a high first round pick. Do some research before you try to blast people


It doesn't matter what Rutherford wants. Its what other people are willing to give up for a player on the downhill of his career and isn't even starting anymore. Maybe you should take of the pens blinders.


Fleury is not on the downhill of his career. Physically, goalies primes are later then skaters so your logic is wrong. He is in a mental rut and needs a new beginning to get out of it. Fleury will be traded at deadline for next to nothing, and end up being a very solid goalie for the rest of his contract. One bad season does not make someone a bad player!!!!!
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:51 p.m.
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It doesn't matter what Rutherford wants. Its what other people are willing to give up for a player on the downhill of his career and isn't even starting anymore. Maybe you should take of the pens blinders.


Fleury is not on the downhill of his career. Physically, goalies primes are later then skaters so your logic is wrong. He is in a mental rut and needs a new beginning to get out of it. Fleury will be traded at deadline for next to nothing, and end up being a very solid goalie for the rest of his contract. One bad season does not make someone a bad player!!!!!


Okie let me see that first round pick you said he was worth or two 2nd. I believe that 1round pick went to Anaheim ?
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:52 p.m.
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Fleury is not on the downhill of his career. Physically, goalies primes are later then skaters so your logic is wrong. He is in a mental rut and needs a new beginning to get out of it. Fleury will be traded at deadline for next to nothing, and end up being a very solid goalie for the rest of his contract. One bad season does not make someone a bad player!!!!!


Okie let me see that first round pick you said he was worth or two 2nd. I believe that 1round pick went to Anaheim ?


he WAS worth two seconds in the summer time. his value has regressed significantly due to a poor season. Rutherford should've been smart and traded him to Calgary instead of asking for the moon. Fleury would've fetched Elliots return +
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:54 p.m.
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statically Fleury has been a very consistent 915-920 SV %goalie his whole career. One bad year and all of a sudden his value drops to a 5th?? Ben Bishop is pulling the same numbers as Fleury rn and his value seems pretty high. idk who you are or how much you know about hockey. But all I can say is that one bad year should not justify how bad of a goalie he is. Overall his value is still decently high
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:56 p.m.
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statically Fleury has been a very consistent 915-920 SV %goalie his whole career. One bad year and all of a sudden his value drops to a 5th?? Ben Bishop is pulling the same numbers as Fleury rn and his value seems pretty high. idk who you are or how much you know about hockey. But all I can say is that one bad year should not justify how bad of a goalie he is. Overall his value is still decently high


I wouldn't say decently high, but he's not untradable like others suggest
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:57 p.m.
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He is still worth between a 2nd -3rd round pick plus a goalie in return most likely
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:58 p.m.
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He is still worth between a 2nd -3rd round pick plus a goalie in return most likely


Id take that. people on here think one bad season makes you a terrible player
Feb. 2, 2017 at 10:58 p.m.
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I'm just gonna wait to prove you guys wrong just like I did for almost a year. A 32 year old goalie, who has a NMC, isn't a full time starter is not worth that much. Why on earth would he go from Pitt to New York? Clueless lmao. Just clueless.
Feb. 2, 2017 at 11:29 p.m.
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The Andersen trade: Andersen had signed a five year contract before the trade (5 X 5). The two picks were 30th and about 48th, one year of Bernier. So, Fleury two year at 5.75 wouldn't return nearly as much as Andersen.
The other big factor is the expansion draft. If teams would trade for Fleury they must think he would be their guy protected. But any team looking for a number one goalie might think they can be do better than trading for Fleury.
Who knows what Fleury mindset is, but his does have a NMC and would he really accept a trade to a number of teams? Especially a non contending team. I 'm trying to be a realistic on any Fleury landing spots, and I just don't see any (especially without money coming back to the Pens). I did ask for a list of teams that Mr hockey mhockey would suggest would teams that would trade for Fleury without taking money back, but I haven't see it yet.
Just get reasons why he still is a good NHL goalie.
Feb. 2, 2017 at 11:36 p.m.
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The Andersen trade: Andersen had signed a five year contract before the trade (5 X 5). The two picks were 30th and about 48th, one year of Bernier. So, Fleury two year at 5.75 wouldn't return nearly as much as Andersen.
The other big factor is the expansion draft. If teams would trade for Fleury they must think he would be their guy protected. But any team looking for a number one goalie might think they can be do better than trading for Fleury.
Who knows what Fleury mindset is, but his does have a NMC and would he really accept a trade to a number of teams? Especially a non contending team. I 'm trying to be a realistic on any Fleury landing spots, and I just don't see any (especially without money coming back to the Pens). I did ask for a list of teams that Mr hockey mhockey would suggest would teams that would trade for Fleury without taking money back, but I haven't see it yet.
Just get reasons why he still is a good NHL goalie.


Fleury would waive his NTC for any team at this point. He just wants a starting job
Feb. 3, 2017 at 12:12 a.m.
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Palhal you won't get one! Fleury won't move and can't move. He simply won't go to somewhere like New York or Calgary. He does not belong there. we will continue to wait to see what teams would take on his contract. Mhockey is just have false hope at this point.
Feb. 3, 2017 at 12:47 a.m.
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I'm just gonna wait to prove you guys wrong just like I did for almost a year. A 32 year old goalie, who has a NMC, isn't a full time starter is not worth that much. Why on earth would he go from Pitt to New York? Clueless lmao. Just clueless.

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Palhal you won't get one! Fleury won't move and can't move. He simply won't go to somewhere like New York or Calgary. He does not belong there. we will continue to wait to see what teams would take on his contract. Mhockey is just have false hope at this point.


Do you have anger issues, bud? This is Armchair GM, not some petty, retribution-filled forum. Calm down.
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Feb. 3, 2017 at 1:28 p.m.
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Fleury is not on the downhill of his career. Physically, goalies primes are later then skaters so your logic is wrong. He is in a mental rut and needs a new beginning to get out of it. Fleury will be traded at deadline for next to nothing, and end up being a very solid goalie for the rest of his contract. One bad season does not make someone a bad player!!!!!


Okie let me see that first round pick you said he was worth or two 2nd. I believe that 1round pick went to Anaheim ?


Yeah and given the way Andersen is playing for Toronto, I would say a lot of people would think that Toronto overpaid for him pretty hard.
Feb. 3, 2017 at 1:39 p.m.
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The Andersen trade: Andersen had signed a five year contract before the trade (5 X 5). The two picks were 30th and about 48th, one year of Bernier. So, Fleury two year at 5.75 wouldn't return nearly as much as Andersen.
The other big factor is the expansion draft. If teams would trade for Fleury they must think he would be their guy protected. But any team looking for a number one goalie might think they can be do better than trading for Fleury.
Who knows what Fleury mindset is, but his does have a NMC and would he really accept a trade to a number of teams? Especially a non contending team. I 'm trying to be a realistic on any Fleury landing spots, and I just don't see any (especially without money coming back to the Pens). I did ask for a list of teams that Mr hockey mhockey would suggest would teams that would trade for Fleury without taking money back, but I haven't see it yet.
Just get reasons why he still is a good NHL goalie.


A trade is out there. At the end of the day, I think it will be something like Jake Allen + 3rd for Fleury, or Niemi/Lehtonen+3rd, or Elliot+3rd. We aren't going to get a lot back, but we can move Flower for a slightly cheaper goalie than can be exposed without too much trouble honestly.
Feb. 3, 2017 at 4:53 p.m.
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He is still worth between a 2nd -3rd round pick plus a goalie in return most likely


Id take that. people on here think one bad season makes you a terrible player


There is no way fluery will get traded this summer let alone for a second or third. Not many teams other than Dallas and St. Louis are in the market for a goalie and there are much better goalies on the market such as Ben Bishop.
Apr. 11, 2018 at 5:50 p.m.
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@Rodzikhockey93 LMAOOOOO REMEMBER THIS
 
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