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Realistic expectations

Created by: martm2k
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 3, 2021
Published: Jul. 3, 2021
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How to improve the current team without making too many changes... Is this realistic in your opinion?
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3$750,000
1$975,000
4$4,000,000
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3$750,000
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1.
MTL
  1. 2022 6th round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
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Mtl gives up a 3rd so Seattle takes Byron instead of Allen.
Kulak can either be packaged in this or traded to another team who needs a depth dman.

Byron only has 2 years left so he's not a long term burden. He brings speed, leadership and great value on the pk.
2.
MTL
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (MIN)
  3. 2022 5th round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
  3. 2021 4th round pick (VGK)
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Drouin will most likely request a trade and getting a dman back would make the most sense.

Could be Dumba, could be Ristolainen in Buffalo, could be Graves or Dunn through Seattle if either ends up being one of their expansion picks.

The wild could use help on the wings to complete Kaprizov, Fiala and Greenway (Parize and Zuccarello are slowing down quite fast). Buffalo needs everything, so does Seattle so these are probably the most interesting options as far as trade partners goes.

Ideally, you'd want a dman to play the right side though as Weber and Petry aren't getting any younger. The left side already has Romanov and Guhle as likely locks for the top 4 along with Norlinder, Harris and Struble as options to complete the left side. The right side doesn't have much aside from Fleury and he's most likely a 3rd line pairing.

Getting younger on the right side is a need. Weber is most likely gone after next year. His salary goes from 6m$ to 3m and, then, 1m, 1m and 1m$. He'll either retire or will become a hot commodity for a team that wants to artificially boost its cap (like Arizona) or a team who's rebuilding and doesn't care about the cap hit but looks for vet leadership to show the kids the way (like Buffalo).
3.
MTL
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 5th round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Trading him to use the cap space to get an upgrade who brings more of what Bergevin has brought over the last year: sandpaper and has won the cup.

Coleman could be an option. Saad would also be high on that list. Both would be upgrades.
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Jul. 3, 2021 at 10:19 p.m.
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Seattle decline, Byron would cost more to dump
MIN decline, they don’t need more LW forwards
How is Lehkonen no sandpaper player
He plays way bigger than is seize and he is extremely important IMO
Plays PK, against the best lines, perfect 4th liner who can play anywhere in the line up
I agree adding Coleman for an upgrade, but keep Lehky and let Armia walk
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Jul. 3, 2021 at 10:49 p.m.
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Quoting: GMs
Seattle decline, Byron would cost more to dump
MIN decline, they don’t need more LW forwards
How is Lehkonen no sandpaper player
He plays way bigger than is seize and he is extremely important IMO
Plays PK, against the best lines, perfect 4th liner who can play anywhere in the line up
I agree adding Coleman for an upgrade, but keep Lehky and let Armia walk


Well, Vegas HAS to take someone from the Habs.
Most people are saying it would either be Allen (2.8m) or Chiarot (3.5m).
A 3rd round to take Byron over Allen (600k difference) isn't that much of a reach. Make it a 2nd round if that's what it takes.
Seattle probably doesn't even need Allen as they'll have other options as far as goalie goes. In that case, you'd pay a 3rd so they take Byron over Chiarot.

The Wild might decline, that's why I listed other possibilities. I'm just not going to make a roster for every single one of them as the trade would be similar to this no matter which of the other options would be. Would you do a similar trade for Ristolainen? Dunn? Graves? Or do you have another realistic target on 'd' that might work in a trade for Drouin?

As for Lehkonen, you are correct, the team could swap him with Armia; you can let Armia walk and give Lehkonen the same contract.
To me, both players are pretty much interchangeable though so I was trying to get an asset back for Lehkonen while keeping Armia instead of having him walk and have nothing to show for it.
I'm good either way though. You keep one of the 2 and you replace the one who leaves with a guy like Coleman or Saad.
Jul. 3, 2021 at 11:04 p.m.
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Well, Vegas HAS to take someone from the Habs.
Most people are saying it would either be Allen (2.8m) or Chiarot (3.5m).
A 3rd round to take Byron over Allen (600k difference) isn't that much of a reach. Make it a 2nd round if that's what it takes.
Seattle probably doesn't even need Allen as they'll have other options as far as goalie goes. In that case, you'd pay a 3rd so they take Byron over Chiarot.

The Wild might decline, that's why I listed other possibilities. I'm just not going to make a roster for every single one of them as the trade would be similar to this no matter which of the other options would be. Would you do a similar trade for Ristolainen? Dunn? Graves? Or do you have another realistic target on 'd' that might work in a trade for Drouin?

As for Lehkonen, you are correct, the team could swap him with Armia; you can let Armia walk and give Lehkonen the same contract.
To me, both players are pretty much interchangeable though so I was trying to get an asset back for Lehkonen while keeping Armia instead of having him walk and have nothing to show for it.
I'm good either way though. You keep one of the 2 and you replace the one who leaves with a guy like Coleman or Saad.


Allen and Khudobin will be the best goalie available with Hill and Vacenek. They could draft those 4 goalies and trade one or two for a 2nd round pick +

Drouin vs Ristolainen, only trade I could see for a change of scenery for both players

If you watched the playoffs, Suzuki Caufield are our best players talent wise, after it’s Danault and Lehkonen who are doing a terrific job defensively

After you got Anderson Toffoli Kotkaniemi Byron Evans who are decent
Gallagher Armia (invisible the last 8ish games) Perry are meh
Staal is horrid

Adding a guy like Coleman or Saad could join the second group of decent guys

I just feel Gallagher is getting old and fell of a cliff this year
Jul. 3, 2021 at 11:29 p.m.
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Not sure a Drouin for Dumba swap interests the Wild. I think they might be interested in a Drouin for Greenway swap if Fiala gets moved but that’s a lot of moving parts.
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Jul. 4, 2021 at 1:17 a.m.
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Not sure a Drouin for Dumba swap interests the Wild. I think they might be interested in a Drouin for Greenway swap if Fiala gets moved but that’s a lot of moving parts.


Drouin isn't good. He hasn't been for years,,& has left Montreal,,basically quit, & went into hiding. Wild definitely wouldn't be interested
Jul. 4, 2021 at 1:18 a.m.
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Well, Vegas HAS to take someone from the Habs.
Most people are saying it would either be Allen (2.8m) or Chiarot (3.5m).
A 3rd round to take Byron over Allen (600k difference) isn't that much of a reach. Make it a 2nd round if that's what it takes.
Seattle probably doesn't even need Allen as they'll have other options as far as goalie goes. In that case, you'd pay a 3rd so they take Byron over Chiarot.

The Wild might decline, that's why I listed other possibilities. I'm just not going to make a roster for every single one of them as the trade would be similar to this no matter which of the other options would be. Would you do a similar trade for Ristolainen? Dunn? Graves? Or do you have another realistic target on 'd' that might work in a trade for Drouin?

As for Lehkonen, you are correct, the team could swap him with Armia; you can let Armia walk and give Lehkonen the same contract.
To me, both players are pretty much interchangeable though so I was trying to get an asset back for Lehkonen while keeping Armia instead of having him walk and have nothing to show for it.
I'm good either way though. You keep one of the 2 and you replace the one who leaves with a guy like Coleman or Saad.


Nah, wild definitely decline by alot. Drouin, & his contract is nothing more than a cap dump. Montreal would need to pay to get rid of him
Jul. 4, 2021 at 1:26 a.m.
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Drouin isn't good. He hasn't been for years,,& has left Montreal,,basically quit, & went into hiding. Wild definitely wouldn't be interested


I’ll take 2 years of a cost controlled 50 point wing for Greenway any day of the week.

I also don’t think you appreciate the maturity it takes for a professional athlete to do what he did. That’s a positive in my book.
Jul. 4, 2021 at 1:34 a.m.
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I’ll take 2 years of a cost controlled 50 point wing for Greenway any day of the week.

I also don’t think you appreciate the maturity it takes for a professional athlete to do what he did. That’s a positive in my book.


I don't think you understand what cost controlled means. And I'm not sure how you're fitting another overpaid, soft, one dimensional winger into the team anyway.
Jul. 4, 2021 at 1:37 a.m.
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I don't think you understand what cost controlled means. And I'm not sure how you're fitting another overpaid, soft, one dimensional winger into the team anyway.


“If Fiala gets moved.”
Jul. 4, 2021 at 4:29 a.m.
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Neither of those trades is realistic.
Jul. 4, 2021 at 1:55 p.m.
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Drouin isn't good. He hasn't been for years,,& has left Montreal,,basically quit, & went into hiding. Wild definitely wouldn't be interested


Isn't good? Hasn't been for years?
He averages over 50pts per 82 games played over the last 4 years.
How many forwards are doing over 50 pts per year? Roughly 90, give or take, depending on which year you're looking at.
With 31 teams currently and 3 forwards per line on each team, that means that he's either one of the least performing (on average) on a first line (as there are 93 forwards playing on a first line in the league) or one of the top performer on a 2nd line.
Either way, I call this a good player.
People need to stop treating him as if he was trash; GMs are giving up high picks and top prospects each year for 50pts players.
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Isn't good? Hasn't been for years?
He averages over 50pts per 82 games played over the last 4 years.
How many forwards are doing over 50 pts per year? Roughly 90, give or take, depending on which year you're looking at.
With 31 teams currently and 3 forwards per line on each team, that means that he's either one of the least performing (on average) on a first line (as there are 93 forwards playing on a first line in the league) or one of the top performer on a 2nd line.
Either way, I call this a good player.
People need to stop treating him as if he was trash; GMs are giving up high picks and top prospects each year for 50pts players.


Okay well stats has shown for years in a way he's like Jason Zucker but worse
GM's aren't giving up any high pucks, or prospect for drouin. You are joking yourself if you actually believe that

Drouin is a cap dump.

https://www.nhl.com/player/jonathan-drouin-8477494

One last point: Montreal can keep him. Sorry but you are blatantly misleading about drouin, who he's as a player, & worth
 
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