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Keith Cap Dumps and Goalies

Created by: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 4, 2021
Published: Jul. 4, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
4$2,250,000
8$4,250,000
7$5,000,000
1$1,000,000
2$3,000,000
2$4,000,000
1$800,000
2$3,750,000
Trades
1.
EDM
    Expansion Draft
    2.
    EDM
    1. Keith, Duncan
    2. 2022 4th round pick (CHI)
    3.
    EDM
      Future Considerations
      Buyouts
      Retained Salary Transactions
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2021
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      2022
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      Logo of the CHI
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      2023
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      21$81,500,000$81,809,467$669,339$2,100,000-$309,467
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      $5,125,000$5,125,000
      LW, C
      NMC
      UFA - 8
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      $12,500,000$12,500,000
      C
      UFA - 5
      $3,000,000$3,000,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 4
      $5,000,000$5,000,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 7
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      $8,500,000$8,500,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 4
      $4,000,000$4,000,000
      LW
      UFA - 3
      $2,250,000$2,250,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 6
      Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
      LW, C
      RFA - 3
      Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
      $2,800,000$2,800,000
      RW
      RFA - 1
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      $800,000$800,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
      $1,500,000$1,500,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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      $5,600,000$5,600,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
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      $4,250,000$4,250,000
      RD
      UFA - 3
      $4,000,000$4,000,000
      G
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
      $5,538,462$5,538,462
      LD
      NMC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      LD
      RFA - 3
      Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      RD
      RFA - 2
      $3,750,000$3,750,000
      G
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
      $1,250,000$1,250,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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      $4,167,000$4,167,000
      LD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Taxi Squad
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      $4,500,000$4,500,000 ($3,375,000$3M$3,375,000$3M)
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1

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      Jul. 4, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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      PlusMinus is stupid
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      Ugh, damn you... I HATE that Kassian contract, but for Puljujärvi, we'd have to consider that...
      Jul. 4, 2021 at 3:05 p.m.
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      This deal forces Detroit to trade away some other pieces but it could well be worth it.
      Jul. 4, 2021 at 3:06 p.m.
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      Quoting: DeadWingsv2
      Ugh, damn you... I HATE that Kassian contract, but for Puljujärvi, we'd have to consider that...


      Does anyone like that Kassian contract other than Kassian and his family?
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      Jul. 4, 2021 at 3:16 p.m.
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      Hawks decline. We'll keep Keith if that's the deal. Swap Neal for Koskinen and change the pick to a 6th and we can talk.
      Jul. 4, 2021 at 3:30 p.m.
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      Quoting: Orionus
      Hawks decline. We'll keep Keith if that's the deal. Swap Neal for Koskinen and change the pick to a 6th and we can talk.


      I agree, Koskinen as the cap hit going back for Keith makes a ton of sense. Hawks can either keep him as a backup for the season or buy him out cheap (1.5 mil for 2 years).
      Jul. 4, 2021 at 3:44 p.m.
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      3.6M for a NHL caliber defensemen versus 11M broken one trick pony.
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      Jul. 4, 2021 at 5:16 p.m.
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      Quoting: BStinson
      3.6M for a NHL caliber defensemen versus 11M broken one trick pony.


      Real dollars don't mean anything except for the cheapest of the GMs and the poorest of the organizations neither of which these teams are. Cap hit is what matters.

      Quoting: oilsince95
      I agree, Koskinen as the cap hit going back for Keith makes a ton of sense. Hawks can either keep him as a backup for the season or buy him out cheap (1.5 mil for 2 years).


      Kieth was statistically one of the worst defensemen in the league last season. I don't think Koskinen going back is enough.

      Quoting: Orionus
      Hawks decline. We'll keep Keith if that's the deal. Swap Neal for Koskinen and change the pick to a 6th and we can talk.


      Keith requested a trade to the west coast to be closer to his son in Vancouver who he didn't get to see last season. This isn't a value trade for the Blackhawks its a message to their players about how they treat their veterans.
      Jul. 4, 2021 at 5:44 p.m.
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      Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
      Real dollars don't mean anything except for the cheapest of the GMs and the poorest of the organizations neither of which these teams are. Cap hit is what matters.



      Kieth was statistically one of the worst defensemen in the league last season. I don't think Koskinen going back is enough.



      Keith requested a trade to the west coast to be closer to his son in Vancouver who he didn't get to see last season. This isn't a value trade for the Blackhawks its a message to their players about how they treat their veterans.

      That’s pure speculation, we’ve seen instances where deals clearly wait until SB is paid or forced pre SB. Like it or not, it’s still an organization and that matters even more now with Covid economy.
      Jul. 4, 2021 at 6:06 p.m.
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      Quoting: BStinson
      That’s pure speculation, we’ve seen instances where deals clearly wait until SB is paid or forced pre SB. Like it or not, it’s still an organization and that matters even more now with Covid economy.


      Edmonton and Chicago aren't teams that are broke. Cap hit matters a lot more than real dollars for almost all teams. (Ottawa because of Melnyk and Arizona are the only exceptions I can think of).

      One benefit of James Neal's cap structure is that he provides more savings from being bought out over the next 2 seasons.
      Jul. 4, 2021 at 6:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
      Edmonton and Chicago aren't teams that are broke. Cap hit matters a lot more than real dollars for almost all teams. (Ottawa because of Melnyk and Arizona are the only exceptions I can think of).

      One benefit of James Neal's cap structure is that he provides more savings from being bought out over the next 2 seasons.

      I never once said AAV wasn’t a factor. I’m bringing up the financial difference which does factor into decisions. We’ve seen numerous move where teams buyout players for savings (eg Abdelkader) when they weren’t going to use the cap space. We’ve seen teams trade player before SB we’re paid like ROR. The difference between those two contracts is rough and at least one of them is serviceable in the NHL like I said.
       
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