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This Team Couldnt Be In A Worse Position

Created by: gunnar
Initial Creation Date: Jul 13, 2021
Published: Jul 14 at 2:24
Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Garland, Conor5$6,000,000
Hill, Adin3$1,500,000
Hayden, John2$850,000
Hunt, Dryden2$850,000
Foote, Cal2$1,750,000
Burke, Brayden1$750,000
Sucese, Nate1$750,000
Steenbergen, Tyler1$750,000
Speers, Blake1$750,000
Pederson, Lane1$750,000
Mayo, Dysin1$750,000
Gauthier, Frédérik1$750,000
Dineen, Cam1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Benn, Jordie1$2,250,000
Murray, Ryan3$3,000,000
Reimer, James1$2,000,000
Haula, Erik2$1,750,000
Bunting, Michael2$1,750,000
Fasching, Hudson1$750,000
Gross, Jordan1$750,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Jaskin, Dmitrij2$1,800,000
Trades
ARI
  1. Foote, Cal [RFA Rights]
  2. Johnson, Tyler
TBL
  1. 2022 4th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. Juolevi, Olli [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver ($1,500,000 retained)
ARI
  1. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
NJD
  1. Kuemper, Darcy
ARI
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Kessel, Phil ($3,400,000 retained)
ARI
    SEA
    1. Fischer, Christian
    Buyouts
    • Michael Grabner: $1,258,333
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Oliver Ekman-Larsson: $1,500,000 (20.66%)
    • Phil Kessel: $3,400,000 (50%)
    • Oliver Ekman-Larsson: $990,000 (12%)
    • Darcy Kuemper: $1,000,000 (22%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    NYI
    ARI
    CBJ
    VAN
    ARI
    PIT
    ARI
    ARI
    2022
    ARI
    ARI
    EDM
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    2023
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ARI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$81,500,000$73,936,117$196,951$2,650,000$7,563,883
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    ARI
    Garland, Conor
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 5
    ARI
    Schmaltz, Nick
    $5,850,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    ARI
    Keller, Clayton
    $7,150,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 7
    ARI
    Hayton, Barrett
    $894,167
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    ARI
    Dvorak, Christian
    $4,450,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 4
    TBL
    Johnson, Tyler
    $5,000,000
    RW, C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    ARI
    Bunting, Michael
    $1,750,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    Haula, Erik
    $1,750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Jaskin, Dmitrij
    $1,800,000
    ARI
    Crouse, Lawson
    $1,533,333
    LW
    RFA - 1
    ARI
    Larsson, Johan
    $1,400,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    ARI
    Pitlick, Tyler
    $1,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    ARI
    Hunt, Dryden
    $850,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    ARI
    Hayden, John
    $850,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Eriksson, Loui
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    ARI
    Chychrun, Jakob
    $4,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
    ARI
    Söderström, Victor
    $863,333
    RD
    RFA - 3
    ARI
    Hill, Adin
    $1,500,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Murray, Ryan
    $3,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ARI
    Lyubushkin, Ilya
    $1,350,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Reimer, James
    $2,000,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Benn, Jordie
    $2,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Foote, Cal
    $1,750,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    EDM
    Russell, Kris
    $1,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1

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    Jul 14 at 2:29
    #1
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    Tampa's not adding Foote to move Johnson
    Jul 14 at 3:17
    #2
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    EDM accepts after the expansion draft. But why would the Yots do this? Ok, Kessel isn't what he used to be but Russell is a solid bottom pair D at an ok price and a low 2nd is a low 2nd. I think Oilers would win this trade, which means Ken Holland can't let that happen.
    Jul 14 at 3:20
    #3
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    Oilers decline the only player of interest would be Kuemper
    Jul 14 at 3:59
    #4
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    Wouldn't mind these trades, but can only see Edmonton accepting. Hopefully Garland is signed for less, but we'll see how that goes. I like most of your UFA signings. Could definitely see something like this happening.
    Jul 14 at 8:37
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    Oilers would only be able to afford this if Koskinen is going too.
    Jul 14 at 9:47
    #6
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Tampa's not adding Foote to move Johnson


    Their fans seem to think they would.
    That is a common trade to Devils
    Jul 14 at 9:48
    #7
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    Quoting: GrinReaper
    Oilers decline the only player of interest would be Kuemper


    Send Kuemper to EDM
    Devils will take Koskinen in cap move
    Jul 14 at 9:50
    #8
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    Value wise it's a decent deal for the Oilers but in reality we're crowded on RW and empty at LW so need someone who can play the other side.
    Jul 14 at 10:27
    #9
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Their fans seem to think they would.
    That is a common trade to Devils


    They cant afford to since Footes contract will be dirt cheap next year
    Jul 14 at 11:02
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    They cant afford to since Footes contract will be dirt cheap next year


    - Tyler Johnson at $5m
    + Cal Foote at $1m

    Net AAV number (-$4m) is pretty good, no?

    And if it will take an asset to move Tyler Johnson, why not part with one exposed to Seattle?

    Maybe I am looking at this all wrong, but I see two "move-TJ" scenarios...

    (1) Trade TJ with Foote and protect 7-3: TBL Loses Tyler Johnson, Cal Foote, and maybe Mathieu Joseph
    (2) Trade TJ with 1st and protect 4-4: TBL Loses Tyler Johnson, Ondrej Palat and 1st pick

    Then the trade-off is: Foote + Joseph....or....Palat + 1st
    (or similar to this...exact trades/protections may be off)
    Jul 14 at 11:41
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    Quoting: Luke_xiv
    EDM accepts after the expansion draft. But why would the Yots do this? Ok, Kessel isn't what he used to be but Russell is a solid bottom pair D at an ok price and a low 2nd is a low 2nd. I think Oilers would win this trade, which means Ken Holland can't let that happen.


    From the coyotes perspective, there headed for another 3-4 year retool/rebuild. So while Kessel still has some value at the age of 33 and will more than likely leave in free agency next year, he doesn't fit in their overall plan. As for the value side I think it's relatively low for someone who was on pace for 30 goals and 63 points in 82 games simply due to the fact he will be 34 come next season and has been known to be somewhat difficult to coach. But knowing Holland he'd probably be willing to give up a first and Holloway for him.
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    Jul 14 at 11:46
    #12
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    - Tyler Johnson at $5m
    + Cal Foote at $1m

    Net AAV number (-$4m) is pretty good, no?

    And if it will take an asset to move Tyler Johnson, why not part with one exposed to Seattle?

    Maybe I am looking at this all wrong, but I see two "move-TJ" scenarios...

    (1) Trade TJ with Foote and protect 7-3: TBL Loses Tyler Johnson, Cal Foote, and maybe Mathieu Joseph
    (2) Trade TJ with 1st and protect 4-4: TBL Loses Tyler Johnson, Ondrej Palat and 1st pick

    Then the trade-off is: Foote + Joseph....or....Palat + 1st
    (or similar to this...exact trades/protections may be off)


    Foote will be exposed, that's not an issue since Tampa will be paying Seattle to take one of Johnson or McDonagh with other assets.

    I think you are missing the idea here, Foote will not be moved because he is cheap and Tampa needs cheap contracts next year
    Jul 14 at 2:19
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Foote will be exposed, that's not an issue since Tampa will be paying Seattle to take one of Johnson or McDonagh with other assets.

    I think you are missing the idea here, Foote will not be moved because he is cheap and Tampa needs cheap contracts next year


    If you are Seattle, you are taking Johnson or Foote?
    If Foote is exposed, they are 100% taking him.
    Jul 14 at 3:52
    #14
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    If you are Seattle, you are taking Johnson or Foote?
    If Foote is exposed, they are 100% taking him.


    Thats not how sweeteners work, Tampa needs the capspace thry will pay premium
    Jul 15 at 4:15
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    Quoting: gunnar
    From the coyotes perspective, there headed for another 3-4 year retool/rebuild. So while Kessel still has some value at the age of 33 and will more than likely leave in free agency next year, he doesn't fit in their overall plan. As for the value side I think it's relatively low for someone who was on pace for 30 goals and 63 points in 82 games simply due to the fact he will be 34 come next season and has been known to be somewhat difficult to coach. But knowing Holland he'd probably be willing to give up a first and Holloway for him.


    I see your point here and agree. As an Oilers fan I could see Kessel fit in. I'd be willing to give it a try for that price.

    But you nailed it, Holland probably rather wants to give up Holloway and a 1st for Kessel if Armstrong offered him your deal. In the presser when asked about this deal Holland would aggressively state that Kessel has won cups in the past which makes it worth the price because this automatically leads to winning cups in the present. And since Kessel and Keith have a combined 5 cups this means five cups for the Oilers as long as those two play.
     
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