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Dach for Jones

Created by: BHawks78
Initial Creation Date: Jul 16, 2021
Published: Jul 16 at 11:21
Team: 2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hagel, Brandon1$950,000
Kämpf, David1$1,100,000
Suter, Pius2$2,000,000
Nylander, Alexander2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Danault, Phillip3$5,500,000
Hinostroza, Vinnie2$1,300,000
Murray, Ryan3$5,000,000
Trades
CHI
  1. Jones, Seth
  2. 2021 5th round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Dach, Kirby
  2. Subban, Malcolm
  3. 2022 1st round pick (CHI)
CHI
    SEA
    1. De Haan, Calvin
    CHI
    1. Fleury, Marc-André ($1,500,000 retained)
    VGK
    1. Mitchell, Ian
    2. 2022 3rd round pick (CHI)
    CHI
    1. 2021 4th round pick (NYI)
    NYI
    1. Strome, Dylan
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Olli Määttä: $750,108 (18%)
    DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
    2021
    CHI
    CHI
    VGK
    CHI
    VAN
    NYI
    CBJ
    CHI
    CHI
    FLA
    2022
    CHI
    EDM
    VGK
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    2023
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    CHI
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$73,296,714$452,439$850,000$8,203,286
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    CHI
    Kubalik, Dominik
    $3,700,000
    LW
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Toews, Jonathan
    $10,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Hinostroza, Vinnie
    $1,300,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    DeBrincat, Alex
    $6,400,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Danault, Phillip
    $5,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    CHI
    Kane, Patrick
    $10,500,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Connolly, Brett
    $3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Suter, Pius
    $2,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Nylander, Alexander
    $2,000,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Hagel, Brandon
    $950,000
    LW
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Kämpf, David
    $1,100,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    CHI
    Carpenter, Ryan
    $1,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Murray, Ryan
    $5,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    CBJ
    Jones, Seth
    $5,400,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    VGK
    Fleury, Marc-André
    $5,500,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Jones, Caleb
    $850,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    CHI
    Murphy, Connor
    $3,850,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Lankinen, Kevin
    $800,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Stillman, Riley
    $1,350,000
    LD
    RFA - 3
    CHI
    Boqvist, Adam
    $894,167
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    CHI
    Shaw, Andrew
    $3,900,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    CHI
    Seabrook, Brent
    $6,875,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 3

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    Jul 16 at 11:23
    #1
    Joined: Jul 2018
    Posts: 62
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    Overpay in IMO on Jones.
    Jul 16 at 11:25
    #2
    NoCupsForCanada
    Joined: Dec 2018
    Posts: 324
    Likes: 253
    Hawks really need to make up their mind as to what they're doing. I don't hate this move for them, but this time last year they were talking about tearing it down. Seems like they've reversed course and taken the Pittsburgh mantra of trying to stay competitive as long as they have Toews and Kane
    Jul 16 at 11:27
    #3
    Drumman44
    Joined: Jun 2017
    Posts: 677
    Likes: 247
    PUKE.

    A future #1C and a potential #1 Goalie available at 11 in this year's draft? Get out of here
    Jul 16 at 11:30
    #4
    VGKNation702
    Joined: May 2019
    Posts: 2,691
    Likes: 868
    If we are trading fleury (I don’t believe Foley will actually let them) we aren’t retaining, it’s to clear his salary
    Jul 16 at 11:34
    #5
    Nylander lives
    Joined: Feb 2018
    Posts: 7,544
    Likes: 3,749
    I know we don’t like to admit it, but Seth Jones has been declining for a couple of years now. When he was on a pair with werenski this season he was bringing his partner down as evidence by the fact that Zach did better without him while Seth did worse without Zach. I wouldn’t even consider a one for one swap of Dach and Jones. Much less adding anything to that from Chicago’s POV.
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    Jul 16 at 11:37
    #6
    Panarin for Saad
    Joined: Aug 2020
    Posts: 609
    Likes: 213
    Alex Nylander has done what exactly to earn 2 million for two years? Let it gooooo he’s been passed up by other prospects and he is 100% a bust
    Jul 16 at 11:44
    #7
    Joined: Jul 2021
    Posts: 428
    Likes: 236
    i feel like jones, especially without an extension, is not worth dach, much less dach+
    Jul 16 at 11:45
    #8
    Be formless
    Joined: Jan 2016
    Posts: 1,066
    Likes: 130
    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    I know we don’t like to admit it, but Seth Jones has been declining for a couple of years now. When he was on a pair with werenski this season he was bringing his partner down as evidence by the fact that Zach did better without him while Seth did worse without Zach. I wouldn’t even consider a one for one swap of Dach and Jones. Much less adding anything to that from Chicago’s POV.


    Jones is 26, he is not declining lol. He’s played on a not great team with injury problems the last two years. Anyone who watches him play knows he is still a top-20 dman in the league, and the Hawks could justify trading Dach for him, OR the 1st and some pieces, but CBJ want a center so if they won’t trade Dach he’s probably going to go to Dallas for Borque+.
    Jul 16 at 11:56
    #9
    Nylander lives
    Joined: Feb 2018
    Posts: 7,544
    Likes: 3,749
    Quoting: Hockey_Mind
    Jones is 26, he is not declining lol. He’s played on a not great team with injury problems the last two years. Anyone who watches him play knows he is still a top-20 dman in the league, and the Hawks could justify trading Dach for him, OR the 1st and some pieces, but CBJ want a center so if they won’t trade Dach he’s probably going to go to Dallas for Borque+.


    His age is not a sufficient argument as to why he is NOT declining and while he didn’t play on a great team last year, that is not the only season in which his play has dropped. Read this article here for a breakdown of his game. Here…

    Also check out https://theathletic.com/2706983/2021/07/15/nhl-trade-big-board-eichel-jones-tarasenko-and-stamkos-25-players-who-could-be-dealt/?source=user_shared_article if you have the athletic to see more.
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    Jul 16 at 12:26
    #10
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 5,464
    Likes: 2,546
    Quoting: Stan_Bowman
    I know we don’t like to admit it, but Seth Jones has been declining for a couple of years now. When he was on a pair with werenski this season he was bringing his partner down as evidence by the fact that Zach did better without him while Seth did worse without Zach. I wouldn’t even consider a one for one swap of Dach and Jones. Much less adding anything to that from Chicago’s POV.


    Everyone likes to admit he's declining except CBJ fans
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    Jul 16 at 12:27
    #11
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 5,464
    Likes: 2,546
    Quoting: Hockey_Mind
    Jones is 26, he is not declining lol. He’s played on a not great team with injury problems the last two years. Anyone who watches him play knows he is still a top-20 dman in the league, and the Hawks could justify trading Dach for him, OR the 1st and some pieces, but CBJ want a center so if they won’t trade Dach he’s probably going to go to Dallas for Borque+.


    age does not justify declining performance
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    Jul 16 at 12:37
    #12
    Joined: Oct 2020
    Posts: 120
    Likes: 40
    Quoting: Wadejos123
    Everyone likes to admit he's declining except CBJ fans


    Ya, torts system really lets players play to their strengths..... get out of here. Some of us has been watching and been fans of our team since before 2009, %99 of chicago fan base cant say the same. Twat waffle
     
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