Dunn Suter and cap dumps

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Created by: Stevierebz

Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 16, 2021

Published: Jul. 16, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Would anybody I Van actually agree to this? I saw it in a Max Boltman article (I think), but even I thought it was far fetched
Also; what’s suters value?

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler	4	$4,500,000
Hronek, Filip	2	$4,500,000
Vrána, Jakub	5	$5,600,000
Cholowski, Dennis	1	$900,000
Smith, Givani	1	$900,000
Lindström, Gustav	1	$900,000
Erne, Adam	1	$900,000
Svechnikov, Evgeny	1	$900,000
Rasmussen, Michael	2	$1,250,000
Dunn, Vince	3	$3,000,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bernier, Jonathan	3	$3,700,000
Glendening, Luke	2	$1,850,000
Suter, Ryan	1	$1,800,000

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Edvinsson, Simon	3	$925,000
Mctavish, Mason	3	$925,000
Cossa, Sebastian	3	$925,000

Trades

DET

Eriksson, Loui
2021 1st round pick (VAN)

VAN

Lindström, Gustav
2021 1st round pick (WSH)

DET

Ex pick

SEA

Svechnikov, Evgeny

Additional Details:

Det protects Geo Smith over Svetch and trades Lindstrom to protect Stetcher

DET

Neal, James
2021 1st round pick (EDM)

EDM

Future considerations

DET

2021 1st round pick (NYR)

NYR

2021 1st round pick (EDM)
2021 2nd round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

Pick #20

DET

Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]

STL

O'Reilly, Ryan [Reserve List]
2021 3rd round pick (DET)
2022 2nd round pick (WSH)

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Frans Nielsen: $4,250,000
Loui Eriksson: $4,000,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$64,107,223	$0	$2,018,750	$17,392,777

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Vrána, Jakub $5,600,000$5,600,000 LW UFA - 3	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 2	Zadina, Filip $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW UFA - 1	Rasmussen, Michael $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, C UFA - 3	Bertuzzi, Tyler $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Veleno, Joseph $894,167$894,167 ($318,750$319K) C RFA - 2	Namestnikov, Vladislav $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 3
	Glendening, Luke $1,850,000$1,850,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2	Erne, Adam $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Smith, Givani $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dunn, Vince $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Hronek, Filip $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD RFA - 3	Bernier, Jonathan $3,700,000$3,700,000 G UFA - 2
Suter, Ryan $1,800,000$1,800,000 LD UFA - 4	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3	Greiss, Thomas $3,600,000$3,600,000 G UFA - 1
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Stecher, Troy $1,700,000$1,700,000 RD UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Cholowski, Dennis $900,000$900,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD RFA - 1
Neal, James $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW, LW UFA - 1
Pánik, Richard $1,375,000$1,375,000 ($250,000$250K$250,000$250K) LW, RW UFA - 2

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:42 p.m.

Billy12Bob

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You've underpaid Dunn and walked him straight to free agency wih that contract.

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:44 p.m.

GMBB

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Canucks just buy out Louie without dropping in draft. No thanks

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.

rednwhite

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Detroit would jump at the Van trade but I can't see Van making that trade unless another pick is going back.

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:47 p.m.

Masonh618

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I would accept 20 and 48 for 15, unless an undisputed steal is available.

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:49 p.m.

Vermathex

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i dont know about the rangers trade it all depends on which center they have ranked the highest. Thats legitimately our only need

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:49 p.m.

Stevierebz

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Steve

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Quoting: rednwhite

Detroit would jump at the Van trade but I can't see Van making that trade unless another pick is going back.

I had Lindstrom going back. Would you do it for mid to late 2nd in either this year or next years draft instead?

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:50 p.m.

Stevierebz

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Quoting: mhroblak

I would accept 20 and 48 for 15, unless an undisputed steal is available.

In this scenario Cossa is there!

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.

Spanky227

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I doubt the rangers trade back, even though the value is fair (unless they really think Raty or another center will fall). More likely they'll trade for an upgrade at 2c.

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:53 p.m.

rednwhite

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I probably would but I'm not sure Yzerman would. All depends who is there at 9. I think this entire draft is a crapshoot so having more picks may be better then higher ones.

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Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.

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Masonh618

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Quoting: Stevierebz

In this scenario Cossa is there!

New York will be more interested in a center. If Cossa is the only sliding prospect, you got a deal

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.

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Stevierebz

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Quoting: rednwhite

I probably would but I'm not sure Yzerman would. All depends who is there at 9. I think this entire draft is a crapshoot so having more picks may be better then higher ones.

One of Edvinsson, McTavish, or Johnson and both goalies

Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.

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Lancebmx

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I don't think that trading down is good for Detroit, going to be some interesting players available. I would rather have move picks in this draft.

Jul. 16, 2021 at 5:00 p.m.

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Stevierebz

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Quoting: Lancebmx

I don't think that trading down is good for Detroit, going to be some interesting players available. I would rather have move picks in this draft.

Det is only moving up in all these trades. Right now we have 6/22 after trades we have 6/9/16

Jul. 16, 2021 at 5:04 p.m.

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Lancebmx

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Quoting: Stevierebz

Det is only moving up in all these trades. Right now we have 6/22 after trades we have 6/9/16

I would just take 6/9/20 and keep the second I'm saying. Some interesting players could be had in the second round. Two goalies in particular that could be just as good as Cossa. Cossa plays on a really good team so I'm not sure how good he actually is.

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Jul. 16, 2021 at 5:08 p.m.

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qwertymann

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Quoting: GMBB

Canucks just buy out Louie without dropping in draft. No thanks

Not super smart from a VAN perspective. While I agree its better than making this trade, an Eriksson buyout is not ideal. Just bury him, only thing worse than a 6 year Eriksson contract is making that contract have 7 years of cap implications, wash your hands of the guy at the end of this season

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Jul. 16, 2021 at 5:25 p.m.

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Plenty of contenders will be interested in Suter on a cheap deal. No reason to waste a year in Detroit, based on where they are in their rebuild.

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