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dubas overhated

Created by: CaillenDraftKings
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 22, 2021
Published: Aug. 22, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Miller, K'Andre
NYR
  1. Mikheyev, Ilya
  2. Engvall, Pierre
  3. Dermott, Travis
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. McCann, Jared
  2. Dunn, Vince
  3. Appleton, Mason
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (WPG)
SEA
  1. Rielly, Morgan
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
Additional Details:
Rielly signs 8.1 x 6 deal
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$78,086,450$0$350,000$3,413,550

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Ritchie, Nick
$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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McCann, Jared
$2,940,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Appleton, Mason
$900,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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Miller, K'Andre
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Dunn, Vince
$4,000,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Robertson, Nicholas
$796,667
LW
RFA - 3
Taxi Squad
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Gabriel, Kurtis
$750,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1
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Brooks, Adam
$725,000 ($0)
C
UFA - 1
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Anderson, Joey
$750,000 ($0)
RW
RFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Ritchie, N.
Matthews, A.
Marner, M.
McCann, J.
Dunn, V.
Power Play 2
Nylander, W.
Tavares, J.
Bunting, M.
Sandin, R.
Miller, K.
Penalty Kill 1
Ritchie, N.
Bunting, M.
Brodie, T.
Holl, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Kase, O.
Marner, M.
Muzzin, J.
Miller, K.

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Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:50 a.m.
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Rangers decline. Miller is not on the trade block. Try again in about 15 years.
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:50 a.m.
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Rangers counter with Kreider and Georgiev for Matthews. Seattle could’ve had Kerfoot for free, they still took McCann, they clearly like him more. When will people realize that nobody wants Toronto’s junk?
Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:50 a.m.
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No he isn't. He's been given every resource and has won nothing. Majority of his depth moves blow up fast. If they don't win a round this year (which is a hilarious bar), he's toast.
Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Root
Rangers decline. Miller is not on the trade block. Try again in about 15 years.


There seems to be some syndrome in New York where rangers fans think every young player that shows promise is a lock for the hall of fame.
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:51 a.m.
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There seems to be some syndrome in New York where rangers fans think every young player that shows promise is a lock for the hall of fame.


meanwhile like 1 in every 6 is actually talented
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
Rangers counter with Kreider and Georgiev for Matthews. Seattle could’ve had Kerfoot for free, they still took McCann, they clearly like him more.

We gotta knock this off. The whole, “ohhh the other team counters with nothing for your best player,” is very tired. It’s been done to death
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.
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Did you say 8.1M for rielly???
Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: linehan10
meanwhile like 1 in every 6 is actually talented


Miller is solid. Definitely could be a good second pair guy. But acting like a 15 year career is a lock is a bit nutty.
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
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These 2 trades would be great ways to justify the Dubas hate in the eyes of Drury and Francis
Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:57 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Did you say 8.1M for rielly???


Rielly is better than Jones and Jones got over 9.
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 11:59 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
We gotta knock this off. The whole, “ohhh the other team counters with nothing for your best player,” is very tired. It’s been done to death


I’m just trying to show how bad the trade is for New York. Let’s just say that 2 4th liners, a bottom pairing D man, and a late 2nd don’t get them to trade Miller even if he does end up being a solid second pairing at best.
Aug. 22, 2021 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: CaillenDraftKings
Rielly is better than Jones and Jones got over 9.


He’s not, and it’s not close.
Aug. 22, 2021 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
I’m just trying to show how bad the trade is for New York. Let’s just say that 2 4th liners, a bottom pairing D man, and a late 2nd don’t get them to trade Miller even if he does end up being a solid second pairing at best.

No i get it dude, it’s just a tired take. It would be better to show a trade that actually would be as lopsided the other way rather than going ridiculously hyperbolic.
Aug. 22, 2021 at 12:26 p.m.
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The Seattle deal is laughable
Aug. 22, 2021 at 12:43 p.m.
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Dubas and Keefe should be removed from the team.

ASAP
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.
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So, the word you're looking for is 'no', as in 'not gonna happen' and 'uh uh'. Rangers have ZERO intention of trading Miller. Besides, their roster is full.
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
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HAHAHAAHHA
Aug. 22, 2021 at 3:23 p.m.
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More ridiculousness, of a "sign and trade"
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Miller is solid. Definitely could be a good second pair guy. But acting like a 15 year career is a lock is a bit nutty.


He's good now, and has enough potential to where a package of 2 bottom 6ers and a bottom pair guy (who are all commonly traded for scraps on this site) and a 2nd round pick can be scoffed at.
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Aug. 22, 2021 at 4:58 p.m.
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirts
He's good now, and has enough potential to where a package of 2 bottom 6ers and a bottom pair guy (who are all commonly traded for scraps on this site) and a 2nd round pick can be scoffed at.


Notice how i never commented on the trade.
Aug. 23, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
There seems to be some syndrome in New York where rangers fans think every young player that shows promise is a lock for the hall of fame.


I'm not your wife and won't let you speak for me.. Never said he'll be "hall of fame" but i do think he'll have a long career in the NHL.
Aug. 23, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
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I'm not your wife and won't let you speak for me.. Never said he'll be "hall of fame" but i do think he'll have a long career in the NHL.


Lol settle down little guy.

It’s a syndrome in New York. It’s why rangers fans are just kind of funny and sad. How many d men have played 16 seasons for one team, and then been a worthy UFA after that? But miller plays a solid 50 games and all of a sudden he’ll be around for a decade and a half.
Aug. 24, 2021 at 8:42 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
There seems to be some syndrome in New York where rangers fans think every young player that shows promise is a lock for the hall of fame.


Yet if u look at our future D, he's our top Ld.
Funny and sad that outsiders think we will hand him over for expensive stuff we don't need lol
Aug. 24, 2021 at 8:59 a.m.
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Quoting: DoubleADoubleK
Yet if u look at our future D, he's our top Ld.
Funny and sad that outsiders think we will hand him over for expensive stuff we don't need lol


I didn’t comment on the trade.

Miller had a solid 50 NHL games. That doesn’t make him a lock for a long term top four d man. This is precisely what I’m talking about.
Aug. 24, 2021 at 10:02 a.m.
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I didn’t comment on the trade.

Miller had a solid 50 NHL games. That doesn’t make him a lock for a long term top four d man. This is precisely what I’m talking about.


Well he played like a vet stud and is our top future LD. So ya, thanks for the scouting report, but he's staying
 
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