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Created by: JumboFett
Team: 2021-22 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 30, 2021
Published: Aug. 30, 2021
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Don't wanna lose Hertl for any reason, but I understand the logic of trading him.
Trades
SJS
  1. Boldy, Matthew
  2. Rask, Victor
  3. 2022 1st round pick (MIN)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Hertl, Tomas
Additional Details:
7yr Extension :(
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2022
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2023
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23$81,500,000$61,369,530$0$507,500$20,130,470
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C
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 9:53 p.m.
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But the trade makes no sense for Minni. They are even more cap strapped next year. And no way Hertl puts Minni over the top this season.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:24 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
But the trade makes no sense for Minni. They are even more cap strapped next year. And no way Hertl puts Minni over the top this season.


SJ taking back Rask allows for cap flexibility with Hertl and Kirill in 21-22. The moves necessary to fit both in 22-23 and beyond will be made in the '22 offseason.

Hertl is a mad-crazy upgrade over Rask. Who can say exactly what a Stanley Cup combo really is, but Hertl gets them way closer than Rask would.
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:25 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
But the trade makes no sense for Minni. They are even more cap strapped next year. And no way Hertl puts Minni over the top this season.


They were a really good team last year with ??? (JEE I guess?) as their #1C why wouldn't Hertl put them over the top? Seems exactly the over-the-top thing. 😐
Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:31 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
But the trade makes no sense for Minni. They are even more cap strapped next year. And no way Hertl puts Minni over the top this season.


Goligoski getting replaced by a very cheap Calen Addison next season helps in that regard and basically kinda solves it honestly, too bad about Kulikov 🙁
Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:39 p.m.
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You know Hertl is a rental, right? This is way too much.
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Radu47
Goligoski getting replaced by a very cheap Calen Addison next season helps in that regard and basically kinda solves it honestly, too bad about Kulikov 🙁


It's the buyout cap for Parise/ Suter that jumps from 4.7m to 12.7m that kills Minni next season.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:42 p.m.
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You know Hertl is a rental, right? This is way too much.


You know CapFriendly, can't think of a good trade, make it with an extension.
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Aug. 30, 2021 at 10:44 p.m.
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Quoting: JumboFett
SJ taking back Rask allows for cap flexibility with Hertl and Kirill in 21-22. The moves necessary to fit both in 22-23 and beyond will be made in the '22 offseason.

Hertl is a mad-crazy upgrade over Rask. Who can say exactly what a Stanley Cup combo really is, but Hertl gets them way closer than Rask would.


The Parise/Suter buyout cap hits jump from 4.7m to 12.7. next season
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:01 p.m.
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i think boldy + two firsts is too much for a rental. i like hertl a lot but if they’re willing to give up this much for him, might as well just add one more piece and go for eichel.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.
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I don’t think Hertl is a C of the caliber that I m ready to sell the farm for with any extension possibility.
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.
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Humongous-Big overpay. Hertl is only worth a 1st and a good prospect since he's a rental. If Minnie knew he would extend then maybe you get another B prospect and a roster player. No way they would trade Boldy for Hertl imo. More like Khovanov, 2022 1st (top 10 protected), Beckman/O'Rourke and Victor Rask
Aug. 30, 2021 at 11:18 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
You know CapFriendly, can't think of a good trade, make it with an extension.


Missed the extension (another classic capfriendly thing lol). But like you said that probably makes LESS sense for Minny with the Parise Suter buyouts.
Aug. 31, 2021 at 1:19 a.m.
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That's what gets you Eichel. Holy overpay!
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Aug. 31, 2021 at 1:52 a.m.
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This is literally really bad for Minnesota. Like easy no. Why the heck does Minnesota do this when they can wait? Oh yeah, you can do sign and trade.
Aug. 31, 2021 at 1:53 a.m.
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Quoting: JumboFett
SJ taking back Rask allows for cap flexibility with Hertl and Kirill in 21-22. The moves necessary to fit both in 22-23 and beyond will be made in the '22 offseason.

Hertl is a mad-crazy upgrade over Rask. Who can say exactly what a Stanley Cup combo really is, but Hertl gets them way closer than Rask would.


Rask is a free agent after the year! So it doesn't matter
 
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