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All in Bob out

Created by: Eli
Team: 2021-22 Florida Panthers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 30, 2021
Published: Sep. 30, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
First sign Barkov for 11Mx8. Slight hometown discount to win it all. Then build a team to get it done.

Next summer, fourth line walks, and Gudas or Forsling is traded. All replaced at league minimum to get under cap.
Trades
ARI
  1. Bobrovsky, Sergei
  2. Denisenko, Grigori
  3. Heponiemi, Aleksi
  4. Lundell, Anton
  5. Nutivaara, Markus
  6. Priskie, Chase
  7. Tippett, Owen
  8. 2022 3rd round pick (FLA)
  9. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  10. 2023 2nd round pick (FLA)
  11. 2023 3rd round pick (FLA)
  12. 2023 7th round pick (ARI)
  13. 2024 1st round pick (FLA)
  14. 2024 3rd round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
2025 1st round pick (FLA)
2026 1st round pick (FLA)
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$81,033,789$0$1,850,000$466,211
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,425,000$4,425,000
C
UFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$7,150,000$7,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,850,000$5,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$2,533,333$2,533,333
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,666,667$1,666,667
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
G
RFA - 2
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$2,666,667$2,666,667
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 30, 2021 at 3:03 p.m.
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the biggest trade in nhl history
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Sep. 30, 2021 at 3:10 p.m.
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Come on man, Florida is giving up way too many pieces here. I'm sorry Chychrun, Keller and Schmaltz aren't worth up to 16 pieces. Even Zito isn't this dumb.
Sep. 30, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Marshallchapman9
the biggest trade in nhl history


Florida wins one of the next four Cups. Arizona wins one of the next four, after that. Win-win. Cap balances. You're welcome, National Hockey League.
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Sep. 30, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.
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Edited Sep. 30, 2021 at 3:18 p.m.
Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Come on man, Florida is giving up way too many pieces here. I'm sorry Chychrun, Keller and Schmaltz aren't worth up to 16 pieces. Even Zito isn't this dumb.


Not every player or pick is equally valuable. I mean, take Bobrovsky, please!
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Sep. 30, 2021 at 3:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Marshallchapman9
the biggest trade in nhl history


Only on capfriendly!
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Sep. 30, 2021 at 3:20 p.m.
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If you think Bobrovsky is a valuable piece, you take him.


Never said Bobrovsky was a valuable piece, He's a major cap dump. But in reality neither Keller or Schmaltz have that great of value either. Only one that has major value is Jakob Chychrun. You wont get anything of value for Schmaltz i can tell you that right now. He's way overpaid for what he brings to the table.
Sep. 30, 2021 at 3:39 p.m.
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Florida winning 60 games and a cup

Damn skippy 😯

Is that meme format still relevant or?
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Sep. 30, 2021 at 3:42 p.m.
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It's just a little dicey with the goalies

Knight could do definitely do what CHart just did

What about trading for an ok backup 50% retained
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Sep. 30, 2021 at 4:02 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Never said Bobrovsky was a valuable piece, He's a major cap dump. But in reality neither Keller or Schmaltz have that great of value either. Only one that has major value is Jakob Chychrun. You wont get anything of value for Schmaltz i can tell you that right now. He's way overpaid for what he brings to the table.


Agree that Schmaltz and Keller aren't top line forwards on a contender and aren't as valuable as Chychrun. I think this deal only works as a whole, because without dumping Bobrovsky, Florida can't make the other offers, and without getting big upgrades at other positions, Florida would be crazy to pay what it would cost to dump Bobrovsky. Let's break it down:

I think Schmaltz is worth Tippett, 2nd, 3rd. That's almost a deadline price, but with five years left, Arizona has no reason to sell. I added Schmaltz last and he put Fla over the cap so I threw in Nutivaara to balance it.

@LGuy54 posted a Bobrovsky thread where @dopplsan got a couple likes for saying the cost to dump Bobrovsky is three 1st round draft picks. I think that's fair, because his remaining salary is a lot lower than his cap hit, and his buyout is even lower, totaling just 14 million actual dollars (but more cap, and over a lot of years). You can look back over the cost of cap dumps, but I think a 1st gets about $5M? If they don't buy him out yet because they think he still has on-ice value, that's on Arizona. Hey, he might bounce back? Here's the discussion that inspired this post: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2814652

Keller is a capable 1R on a fair but not amazing deal, with term. He doesn't score a ton, relative to the league, but he does very well relative to his team, so on a better team, he should do better. That's the logic Florida used in getting guys like Duclair, Bennett, and Reinhart, so whether or not you think it's dumb, I think they'd be comfortable offering Denisenko, Heponiemi, 3rd, 7th. Not a great deal, not a horrible one. Loads Florida up to win the Cup before either prospect is likely to make the NHL. Can they get someone better for those assets, with term? I'd be surprised. Who do you have in mind?

That leaves the 'Yotes giving away a 23 year old #1 defenseman on a great contract for Lundell, Priskie, 1st, 3rd. But they have to, to get the rest of this done, because Florida would be crazy to pay three 1st round picks just for cap space, with no way to fill it. They only way they're realistically considering three 1sts to dump Bob is if it also lands them some great supporting players to help them win a Cup.
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Sep. 30, 2021 at 6:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Radu47
It's just a little dicey with the goalies

Knight could do definitely do what CHart just did

What about trading for an ok backup 50% retained


If one is available, absolutely. The guys I put on the fourth line are available to trade, since their deals are expiring anyway. Vatrano for a half-priced Korpisalo could be fine.

Or, and there's no way to predict whether Edmonton outbids this, but if Arizona happens to buy out Bobrovsky, and he's open to signing at league minimum.... smile
Sep. 30, 2021 at 6:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Radu47
It's just a little dicey with the goalies

Knight could do definitely do what CHart just did

What about trading for an ok backup 50% retained


CBJ have a perfectly good Korpisalo available.
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Sep. 30, 2021 at 10:44 p.m.
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Of course, the alternative is to just start Bobrovsky this season, with a solid team in front of him, and hope he continues to play himself back into a starting job. But where's the fun in that?
Oct. 8, 2021 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Only on capfriendly!


Laugh all you want. Step one is complete! https://www.si.com/hockey/news/barkov-panthers-agree-to-eight-year-extension?fbclid=IwAR0_7zKtMtKJIDFtvXG_liyxx_Bs_gTP4Hm2wLDfpPBpS1Pv96lk0beWSyo

smile smile smile
Oct. 11, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
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Laugh all you want. Step one is complete! https://www.si.com/hockey/news/barkov-panthers-agree-to-eight-year-extension?fbclid=IwAR0_7zKtMtKJIDFtvXG_liyxx_Bs_gTP4Hm2wLDfpPBpS1Pv96lk0beWSyo

smile smile smile


Yes. FLA re-signed Barkov. Way to go, Nostradamus.
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