It Wouldnt Surprise Me at the Deadline

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Created by: krakowitz

Team: 2021-22 Washington Capitals

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 4, 2021

Published: Oct. 4, 2021

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I don't want to give up the picks, but this is definitely something that the Caps will consider at the deadline. The left side of the defense is a pretty big question mark, especially if Kempny can't come back to full strength. Given Laviolette will already trust Ekholm immensely given their time in Nashville, I fully expect something like this to go down, whether it's the right move or not.

I don't want to get into the specifics of his value on the market, just that it would be something along the lines of a first and second round pick.

Trades

WSH

Ekholm, Mattias ($1,875,000 retained)

NSH

Kempný, Michal
2022 2nd round pick (WPG)
2023 1st round pick (WSH)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$68,587,928	$472,927	$132,500	$12,912,072

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Ovechkin, Alex $9,500,000$9,500,000 LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5	Bäckström, Nicklas $9,200,000$9,200,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Oshie, T.J. $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 4
Mantha, Anthony $2,850,000$2,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Kuznetsov, Evgeny $3,900,000$3,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4
Sheary, Conor $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Eller, Lars $2,415,000$2,415,000 C UFA - 2	Wilson, Tom $5,166,667$5,166,667 RW M-NTC UFA - 3
Hagelin, Carl $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW UFA - 2	Dowd, Nic $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Sprong, Daniel $725,000$725,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
		Hathaway, Garnet $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekholm, Mattias $1,875,000$1,875,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 5	Samsonov, Ilya $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Orlov, Dmitry $1,275,000$1,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Schultz, Justin $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Vanecek, Vitek $716,667$716,667 G UFA - 1
Fehérváry, Martin $791,667$791,667 ($132,500$132K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Jensen, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
van Riemsdyk, Trevor $950,000$950,000 RD UFA - 2

Oct. 4, 2021 at 5:54 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Offer probably gets beat

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Oct. 4, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.

CMcAvoy73

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I kinda doubt Washington are big buyers at the deadline.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 6:32 p.m.

CMcAvoy73

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Offer probably gets beat

Does it though? Any instances of a number 2 d man getting more than a 1st and 2nd as a rental ?

Oct. 4, 2021 at 7:44 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Does it though? Any instances of a number 2 d man getting more than a 1st and 2nd as a rental ?

If it's a rental, I would think any team inquiring about Ekholm is probably interested in extending him since he is still probably a top 30 dman in the league.

Savard who is at best a #3 returned a 1st and 3rd as a rental

Oct. 4, 2021 at 8:33 p.m.

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Sure, but can you give me an example of a guy that got the kind of return you’re suggesting?

Oct. 4, 2021 at 10:02 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

Sure, but can you give me an example of a guy that got the kind of return you’re suggesting?

I havent suggested a return, I just think he gets a bit more than this

Oct. 4, 2021 at 10:06 p.m.

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

I havent suggested a return, I just think he gets a bit more than this

I think you’re suggesting an absolutely unprecedented return. Can you think of any time in say, the last 20 years that a guy like ekholm has gotten that kind of return?

Oct. 4, 2021 at 11:01 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

I think you’re suggesting an absolutely unprecedented return. Can you think of any time in say, the last 20 years that a guy like ekholm has gotten that kind of return?

Pronger with 1 year left was traded for 2 1sts, Lupul and Sbisa

Shattenkirk to Washington for 1st + 2nd (Cond) + Sanford

EK65 trade

Burns + 2nd to SJ for Coyle + 1st + Setoguchi

Seth Jones trade

Trouba for Pionk and a 1st

These are just a few examples I could find during the 20 min intermission.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 11:09 p.m.

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

The shattenkirk one is pretty good.
Pronger, Karlsson, and Jones are number ones. Pronger and jones weren’t deadline deals. Wasn’t trouba an RFA?

I do think the shattenkirk one is a good one though…certainly an exception, rather than the norm though.

Oct. 4, 2021 at 11:12 p.m.

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Quoting: CMcAvoy73

I think calling them #1's can be a bit misleading as Ekholm has been an elite #2 most of his career and could definitely be considered #1 caliber on aome teams

Oct. 5, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.

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Too expensive for a rental. Waive Kempny to Hershey to get his groove back and sign a UFA or two.

Oct. 5, 2021 at 1:22 p.m.

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krakowitz

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Offer probably gets beat

I mentioned in the description that I wasn't going to get too picky about the return lol. I was more focusing on the idea that the Caps will want to bring in Ekholm

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