If Vegas is the team that trades for Jack Eichel

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Created by: sensonfire

Team: 2021-22 Vegas Golden Knights

Initial Creation Date: Oct. 29, 2021

Published: Oct. 29, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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If Buffalo succeeds in acquiring the equivalent value of these 4 assets for Jack Eichel,

Buffalo wins.

If Buffalo fails in acquiring the equivalent value of these 4 assets for Jack Eichel,

Buffalo loses.

If it is unclear, but possible, that the return on Jack Eichel is equivalent in value to these 4 assets,

It's a fair trade.

Those are my own personal rules with regards to a blockbuster trade for Eichel for voting on Capfriendly's "Who won the trade?"

Trades

VGK

On this side, these are the players that Buffalo can try trading for and that are free of any trade protection as of the 2021-2022 NHL Season.

Once a player is acquired, his contract is acquired as well.

Reilly Smith
Alex Tuch
Chandler Stephenson
Mattias Janmark
William Carrier
Nolan Patrick
Brett Howden
Jake Leschyshyn
Nicolas Roy
Sven Baertschi
Keegan Kolesar

Shea Theodore
Brayden McNabb
Nicolas Hague
Dylan Coghlan
Zach Whitecloud

Laurent Brossoit

BUF

On this side, you have prospects that I think would all qualify as each having the value of a first round pick or greater.

For the purposes of this post, a prospect is anyone who is still on an ELC or is on the reserve list.

Peyton Krebs
Brendan Brisson
Zach Dean

VGK

Eichel, Jack

Additional Details:

As far back as July, if not earlier ...

Buffalo Sabres GM Kevyn Adams has specifically asked for the equivalent of ...

2 NHL Players + 2 Top Prospects/First Round Picks ...

in value for Jack Eichel.

That was at least 3 months ago.

The team that trades for Eichel would also need to send a sizeable contract to Buffalo.

Because Buffalo needs to stay above the floor and has openly refused to retain any salary on Eichel whatsoever.

BUF

2022 1st round pick (VGK)
2023 1st round pick (VGK)
2024 1st round pick (VGK)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$71,723,272	$285,772	$605,000	$9,776,728

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Marchessault, Jonathan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Karlsson, William $5,900,000$5,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 6	Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Krebs, Peyton $863,333$863,333 ($412,500$412K) C, LW RFA - 3	Stephenson, Chandler $2,750,000$2,750,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Carrier, William $1,400,000$1,400,000 LW UFA - 3	Roy, Nicolas $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Kolesar, Keegan $725,000$725,000 RW UFA - 1
Howden, Brett $885,000$885,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Leschyshyn, Jake $778,333$778,333 ($132,500$132K) C RFA - 1	Røndbjerg, Jonas $806,667$806,667 ($60,000$60K) LW, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Martinez, Alec $5,250,000$5,250,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Pietrangelo, Alex $8,800,000$8,800,000 RD NMC UFA - 6	Lehner, Robin $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 4
Hague, Nicolas $791,667$791,667 LD RFA - 1	Theodore, Shea $5,200,000$5,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 4	Brossoit, Laurent $2,325,000$2,325,000 G UFA - 2
McNabb, Brayden $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD UFA - 1	Coghlan, Dylan $762,500$762,500 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Janmark, Mattias $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Stone, Mark $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 6	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 5
Patrick, Nolan $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, RW UFA - 2		Pacioretty, Max $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Hutton, Ben $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1		Tuch, Alex $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
		Whitecloud, Zach $725,000$725,000 RD UFA - 1
		Bischoff, Jake $716,667$716,667 LD UFA - 1

Oct. 29, 2021 at 8:06 p.m.

QualityTrades1

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No consideration to injury, market pressure, or to a lesser degree his attitude.

Eichel needing to get moved while still being injured really hinders a team's ability to gamble 4 first round picks whether that's what they want for him or not.

Of course they could just keep him and he could not play, but where's the value in that?

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Oct. 29, 2021 at 8:18 p.m.

Sabresforlife

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Quoting: QualityTrades1

The Value is not getting bent over on the deal

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Oct. 29, 2021 at 8:59 p.m.

Shibbal18

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"Buffalo Sabres GM Kevyn Adams has specifically asked for the equivalent of 4 1st round picks in value for Jack Eichel."

No. This has been debunked, and im 90% sure ive told you this myself before

Oct. 29, 2021 at 9:37 p.m.

sensonfire

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sensonfire

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Quoting: Shibbal18

"Buffalo Sabres GM Kevyn Adams has specifically asked for the equivalent of 4 1st round picks in value for Jack Eichel."

No. This has been debunked, and im 90% sure ive told you this myself before

What has he asked for exactly then?

The answer I'm looking for is a numeric value.

Something that can be quantified or that is "a number on something".

2 roster forwards and 2 1st round picks is an example of "a number on something".

Something that is fluff ...

like in the form of "the best return possible" or "a return that is good for the Buffalo Sabres" ...

is a non-answer and will not receive a like from me

Oct. 29, 2021 at 9:39 p.m.

Shibbal18

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Quoting: sensonfire

A+ prospect 2 nhlers and a first

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Oct. 29, 2021 at 9:46 p.m.

alpine4life

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Quoting: Shibbal18

A+ prospect 2 nhlers and a first

so you're telling me Krebs, 2022-1st, Marchessault & Tuch is a fair deal?

Oct. 29, 2021 at 9:48 p.m.

Shibbal18

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Quoting: alpine4life

so you're telling me Krebs, 2022-1st, Marchessault & Tuch is a fair deal?

yes, though i think theyd like one of the nhlers to be a bit younger

Oct. 29, 2021 at 9:55 p.m.

alpine4life

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Quoting: Shibbal18

yes, though i think theyd like one of the nhlers to be a bit younger

if the price dropped that much from what I've heard from NHL insiders last summer, it most likely means that Eichel doesnt give BUF a whole lot of options with him NMC

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Oct. 29, 2021 at 10:19 p.m.

sensonfire

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Quoting: Shibbal18

A+ prospect 2 nhlers and a first

Splendid!

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Oct. 29, 2021 at 10:21 p.m.

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Shibbal18

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Quoting: alpine4life

if the price dropped that much from what I've heard from NHL insiders last summer, it most likely means that Eichel doesnt give BUF a whole lot of options with him NMC

If hes shuts down a trade then hes stuck in Buffalo for 4 more years

Oct. 29, 2021 at 10:58 p.m.

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Edited Oct. 29, 2021 at 11:04 p.m.

ugggg

Oct. 30, 2021 at 4:59 p.m.

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gretzkyghosts

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Quoting: QualityTrades1

No consideration to injury, market pressure, or to a lesser degree his attitude.
Eichel needing to get moved while still being injured really hinders a team's ability to gamble 4 first round picks whether that's what they want for him or not.
Of course they could just keep him and he could not play, but where's the value in that?

Quoting: alpine4life

so you're telling me Krebs, 2022-1st, Marchessault & Tuch is a fair deal?

Quoting: sensonfire

Splendid!
Post will now be edited.

I have said this before, I would do Tuch, Brisson, 2022 first and second for Jack.
Most Sabre fans would say not enough, but this would give the Sabres 5 picks among the first two rounds and Tuch will not add to the team so they could keep their hopes alive for a lottery pick.

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