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Forum: Armchair-GMAug 31 at 2:49
Thread: Miller to Caps for Kempny Jensen Dowd and 2021 2nd
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>Kempny for Miller straight up is realistic. No need to add all of that other stuff. Maybe a later pick from Caps?</div></div>
So Miller for Dowd and Kempný?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>realistically how much better s miller than Kempny? Kempny might be the better player actually idk</div></div>
I think Miller has the potential to better than Kempný, but we can agree to disagree as well.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny54</b></div><div>I'd say it's a matter of needs for each team...Sabres need a LD and from what it would look like would Wash rather have Miller or Jensen in the starting line up at RD.
I would think Miller for Kempny straight up works</div></div>

I was using a couple of trades generated by what I thought were Cap fans.
i thought the second was bit over the top, but I thought the Caps may want to move Jensen and Dowd would the payment for that.
IMO Miller is a bit better than Kempný (defensemen always look better when they play for offensive minded teams), so for the sake of moving the discussion along,
we dropped the second, what would it take to add Dowd and Jensen?
Would retaining $1,500,000 make a difference?
Adding a prospect not named UPL, Cozens, Mittelstadt or Thompson?
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 19 at 10:58
Thread: Jack comes home
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Silkysmooth42</b></div><div>Yeah, And i seriously dont mean to offend you in saying its bad. I really dont
Im just saying, there are no sign and trades like that anymore in hockey (if there ever were), and truthfully, the bruins dont want to give up those three for Eichel and a 8th overall pick, its not worth it.
But no, the trade itself isnt bad valuewise by any means for the Sabres, they just might not like it, which is its own story</div></div>

I completely agree with every single comment you made above as well.
While a signed Krug and Pasternak is close to fair, adding Krejci while taking on Okposo tilts the scales totally toward the Sabres.
IDK what Sabre fans are missing, I really think when they see an Eichel trade they automatically say no.
Regardless, I am happy at least one person saw that the value exchange greatly favored Buffalo.

Just had a thought, Buffalo gives Boston first round picks from 2020 and 2021 instead of all of the picks from 2020, then at the TDL Boston wants to get Krejci back and gives them the 2021 pick. LOL of course it would never happen, it would reek of collusion but what a delicious idea of keeping Boston under that cap.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 18 at 1:52
Thread: Jack comes home
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What if Krug was signed for 7 at $7,000,000
I sort of viewed the picks and Okposo for Kreji, then he could be flipped at the TDL for a first?
Then Eichel for Pasta and Krug.
Tell me more if you can.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 10 at 3:44
Thread: RHD for Hanifin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurnEmUp</b></div><div>I can't believe Miller and Hanifin are being compared like they are really close in value, but let's say they are and that Pilut opts out of the KHL and this becomes a huge "win" for the Flames because of it, now what do they do in the expansion draft? I assume Pilut is not exempt correct? If he and Miller are as good as people are saying then the Flames would certainly lose one in the expansion draft unless they left their captain unprotected, in which case they lose him and in the end the whole debacle is a loss for the Flames really.</div></div>

OK, let's say they do not make the trade.
Who do they protect?
Giordano, Hanifin, Andersson or Brodie?
If Pilut can demonstrate his offensive skills in the NHL, then the Flames would have either one of them.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul 10 at 11:46
Thread: RHD for Hanifin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>BUF says thx a lot and runs away with the steal</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Pretty sure that Pilut has signed a 2 year deal to play in the KHL.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>I'd say it's Hanifin's contract length that makes this stealish. In terms of short-term on-ice value. Hanifin and Miller aren't very far apart. Hanifin brings more offense, Miller brings more defense. I think the bigger issue is that the Sabres prospect pool is so trash that there's really no one they can send in this deal (because of the massive gap between Cozens and the next guy) that would make this work. So they'd have to send like a 2nd.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzmets</b></div><div>I think that Buffalontakes that trade but it is by no means a steal. Hanafin is a very similar player to Miller. He tends to get overrated because of where he was drafted. He had a very good year in 18-19, but the rest of his career he has been a below average 2nd pair defenseman without alot of physical abilities but not very good underlying numbers</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>It is believed he has an nhl out clause</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Flames decline</div></div>

I think Miller and Hanifin are close, but Hanifin gets the nod.
Buffalo and Calgary makes the trade to balance LHD and RHD.
If Pilut opt out of the KHL contract, this is actually a huge win for Calgary.
While Pilut was not given the chance to display his offensive talents in Buffalo, he won the Salming award and was an AHL All Star.
But good discussion thanks for your input, maybe both teams would say no.
Buffalo may want to trade Miller for a center.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 27 at 7:41
Thread: Getting cap space
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Lots of interesting feed back.
It appears no one thinks the Knights would say no.
Vegas makes this trade to get younger, shed Stastny’s cap and give them a top line RW.
Buffalo makes this trade to get an interim #2 center to allow Cozens to develop.

I would imagine if Tuch or Glass and second replaced Hague and a first, Adams would make that trade.

Thanks for your input.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 22 at 3:29
Thread: Jack comes home version II
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HGStebbins</b></div><div>I think the picks and players aren’t bad. However, you need to find a way to move Krejci for this to be more realistic. I think you’re more likely to see Boston have yo give something up to get better first round picks because with where Boston picks will end up picking in the draft Buffalo is pretty much getting two seconds and two thirds. They’re going to expect at the very least one very high draft pick in this deal.</div></div>

Exactly what I mean, the Flyers gave up a lot more for Lindros than the Bruins are giving up in this trade, yet as you could see, until I posted the comparison, most thought it was too much.
That is what I was trying to say, if you want Eichel it will cost a ton.
A couple of good roster players, a couple of good prospects (grade "A") and at least a couple of first round picks.
Anything less is a gross underpayment.
I was going to make it 3 first round picks but the Bruins did not have one in 2020.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 22 at 3:18
Thread: Jack comes home version II
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First of all thank you all for your kind words.
Many would say something like "Well you are just stupid"
Yes times are different and except for the McAvoy the asset comparisons for Lindros are better.
There were only 22 picks in each round back in the 90's not 32.
What is the likely hood of getting players as Simon and Hoffman in the second round back to back in this year.
No one from either side of the list matches Forsberg not even McAvoy.
Most important, Jack has already proven he is a great NHL player, Lindros was still only a prospect (yes a very good one but look at Nail Yakupov).
So again, I am not trying to start an argument, nor propose a trade, nor call anyone stupid or anything as that, just if a team wants Eichel, it will cost a lot.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 22 at 3:01
Thread: Jack comes home version II
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>Now this offer is gonna start to get you somewhere. Nice job.

Buffalo probably wants to give a RHD back in that deal (Risto or Montour). Maybe take out a 2nd, throw Kase in and have Montour coming back.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Silkysmooth42</b></div><div>Wow bruins laugh at this offer

Yes lets give up OUR ENTIRE FUTURE for one franchise player.

Eichel is a BEAST, but he is not worth giving up on a cup winning team and killing the future of the franchize</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Carlo instead of Mcavoy in my opinion.
But very good deal for buffalo in my opinion.</div></div>

Eric Lindros was traded for this:
Chris Simon, Mike Ricci, Kerry Huffman, Ron Hextall, Peter Forsberg, Steve Duchesne, future considerations, round 1 pick in the 1993 draft, round 1 pick in the 1994 draft

IMO Jack is at least as good as Eric, and the trade I proposed does not come close to the what the Flyers gave up for Eric.
So it is not at least the trade I proposed the team getting Eichel is stealing him:

Steve Duchesne for McAvoy, Charlie
Mike Ricci for DeBrusk, Jake
Peter Forsberg for Studnicka, Jack
round 1 pick in the 1993 draft, for 2021 1st round pick (BOS)
round 1 pick in the 1994 draft for 2022 1st round pick (BOS)
Chris Simon for 2020 2nd round pick (BOS)
Kerry Huffman for 2021 2nd round pick (BOS)
There may be some inequities but on the balance it is a fair comparison.
Anything less than this will not get you Eichel.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 27 at 1:45
Thread: BLOCKBUSTER
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Switch Lundkvist for K'Andre Miller, switch Kravtsov for Kakko and switch Chytil for Zibanejad.

Ok i kid, i kid</div></div>

IMO, the Rangers may want to keep Zibanejad to give them 2 top centers. But I definitely like Kakko over Kravtsov, but I do not think the Sabres "need" a LHD prospect so neither Lundkvist nor K'Andre Miller really fit now so Chytil instead of either one. As adding Jack makes the Rangers playoff bound and the Sabres need more secondary scoring keeping Chytil makes more sense IMHO.

So please look at my post and give me some feedback. Not as a realistic trade but for value exchange and does it make sense for both teams <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1716946">https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1716946</a>.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar 29 at 4:30
Thread: Eichel who says no and why
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sebybbq</b></div><div>If Buffalo trade Eichel they will want top end prospectS, a regular player that can have a impact right, high first round picks.
Eichel is younger then all those players you throw at Buffalo and their no prospect involved. Buffalo would at least ask for Kaprizov and Boldy plus the first round pick and Fiala or Brodin or Dumba</div></div>

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Thanks for your comment, the best one on this post.
First of all they are only months older than Jack
Jack Eichel C RH Born Oct 28 1996 68 36 42 78 Cap Hit of $10,000,000 to 2025-26 (UFA)
Donato, Ryan C LH born Apr 9 1996 62 14 9 23 Cap Hit of $1,900,000 to 2020-21 (RFA)
Fiala, Kevin Born LW LH Jul 22 1996 64 23 31 54 Cap Hit of $3,000,000 to 2020-21 (RFA)
Kunin, Luke C RH Born Dec 4 1997 63 15 16 31 Cap Hit of $925,000 to 2019-20 (RFA)
Second, Buffalo is getting 3 picks all 47 or better in the same year (this is important so the team does not have to draw out the time to see the returns on the trade).
Third, Buffalo does not need another RHD so Let's remove Dumba.
Fourth Buffalo sheds about $4,000,000 of cap and collectively picks up 16 goals and 30 pts as well as the picks.
Finally, I think Buffalo would hate to trade Jack, but Buffalo also needs more depth, and maybe this would give it to them.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 10, 2019 at 12:28
Thread: Good bye Kulikov hello Scandella
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>masterjuddi</b></div><div>Makes no sense for the jets to give up a 2nd to get rid of Kulkov and add Scandella. Jets are more than happy to ride out the year with Kulikov playing 15-18 minutes opposed to bringing in a guy who's marginally better and hasnt been around the team.
Arguing this deal is good for either team is terrible, cause it simply won't happen</div></div>

OK actually Scandella is significantly better than Kulikov. Scandella had more pts in '17-'18 the Kulikov had in three years. Scandella on his own is most likely worth about 3rd, and moving Kulikov is worth about 3rd as well. So 2 thirds are about equal to a 2nd with a 4th coming with Scandella.
In the '17-'18 season Scandella played top minutes well so he could easily do the same this year with the Jets. BTW, he is playing very well right now and has been on the ice for only 1 out of the 11 goals against this season.
You are correct this is not a great trade for the Jets, but it is an OK trade.
But you are also correct that this trade will not be made.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 9, 2019 at 1:02
Thread: Kapanen The Legend Continues
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>yea you right. giving up kapanen who is a good 3rd line right wing for a player who will split time on the 4th line on the AHL team. Thompson isnt better then bracco, he isnt better then petan, he isnt better then korshkov but hes probably better then wilson. they have wilson in the lineup to help the younger players with their development so he will still play games. I guess giving up a good middle six forward for a 4th line ahler who has a small chance at making the leafs next year is a great idea. asset management 101. :squinty</div></div>

This is an unfortunate food fight that I started, for that I apologize.
I can see how my reply could be misunderstood that I thought this was a good trade for the Leafs. That was not my intention. If you read my comment, it was not directed to the value of the trade but rather to your comment about Thompson that he would not be a full time Marlie. I thought that was just a bit hyperbolic and over reacted.
I really like Kapanen and would love to see him in a Sabre, but IMO this trade does not work for either team. Sheary does not PK and even though his goals may be close to Kapanen, his value to the team is not the same. While I think Thompson will develop into a good mid six forward, he is at least a year away and does not help the Leafs this year.
The Sabres pass because even though Kapanen can PK, they have players who fill that role.
Again, I should have been more specific when I responded to your initial post. Both teams would pass on this trade for different reasons.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 3, 2019 at 11:19
Thread: trading Drouin
Actually this gives the Canadians a LHD who was among the top 60 goal producers last year.
Vesey had only one less goal than Drouin last year while getting half of the pp time, and spending over a min/gm on the PK.
While it may be a poor return it is not that bad, Drouin is hardly an irreplaceable star. Considering how Drouin disappeared over the last 20 games, I would have thought most Habs fan would be happy to get players who fill current hole at LHD and a hole created after he is traded with about the same cap hit.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Scandella is a cap dump</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Herms17</b></div><div>Sure, but trading him for those 2 just makes the team weaker and then they forsure don't make the playoffs</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EthanK24</b></div><div>Bwahahahaha. Good one.</div></div>