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Forum: Armchair-GMOct 10, 2019 at 12:28
Thread: Good bye Kulikov hello Scandella
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>masterjuddi</b></div><div>Makes no sense for the jets to give up a 2nd to get rid of Kulkov and add Scandella. Jets are more than happy to ride out the year with Kulikov playing 15-18 minutes opposed to bringing in a guy who's marginally better and hasnt been around the team.
Arguing this deal is good for either team is terrible, cause it simply won't happen</div></div>

OK actually Scandella is significantly better than Kulikov. Scandella had more pts in '17-'18 the Kulikov had in three years. Scandella on his own is most likely worth about 3rd, and moving Kulikov is worth about 3rd as well. So 2 thirds are about equal to a 2nd with a 4th coming with Scandella.
In the '17-'18 season Scandella played top minutes well so he could easily do the same this year with the Jets. BTW, he is playing very well right now and has been on the ice for only 1 out of the 11 goals against this season.
You are correct this is not a great trade for the Jets, but it is an OK trade.
But you are also correct that this trade will not be made.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 9, 2019 at 1:02
Thread: Kapanen The Legend Continues
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>yea you right. giving up kapanen who is a good 3rd line right wing for a player who will split time on the 4th line on the AHL team. Thompson isnt better then bracco, he isnt better then petan, he isnt better then korshkov but hes probably better then wilson. they have wilson in the lineup to help the younger players with their development so he will still play games. I guess giving up a good middle six forward for a 4th line ahler who has a small chance at making the leafs next year is a great idea. asset management 101. :squinty</div></div>

This is an unfortunate food fight that I started, for that I apologize.
I can see how my reply could be misunderstood that I thought this was a good trade for the Leafs. That was not my intention. If you read my comment, it was not directed to the value of the trade but rather to your comment about Thompson that he would not be a full time Marlie. I thought that was just a bit hyperbolic and over reacted.
I really like Kapanen and would love to see him in a Sabre, but IMO this trade does not work for either team. Sheary does not PK and even though his goals may be close to Kapanen, his value to the team is not the same. While I think Thompson will develop into a good mid six forward, he is at least a year away and does not help the Leafs this year.
The Sabres pass because even though Kapanen can PK, they have players who fill that role.
Again, I should have been more specific when I responded to your initial post. Both teams would pass on this trade for different reasons.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 3, 2019 at 11:19
Thread: trading Drouin
Actually this gives the Canadians a LHD who was among the top 60 goal producers last year.
Vesey had only one less goal than Drouin last year while getting half of the pp time, and spending over a min/gm on the PK.
While it may be a poor return it is not that bad, Drouin is hardly an irreplaceable star. Considering how Drouin disappeared over the last 20 games, I would have thought most Habs fan would be happy to get players who fill current hole at LHD and a hole created after he is traded with about the same cap hit.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Scandella is a cap dump</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Herms17</b></div><div>Sure, but trading him for those 2 just makes the team weaker and then they forsure don't make the playoffs</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EthanK24</b></div><div>Bwahahahaha. Good one.</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 12, 2019 at 1:40
Thread: Risty
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>No thanks from Buffalo. We have enough defensemen, dont need a busted player. We would probably only trade Risto for Nuge</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>No we dont. We have 6 nhl ready RHD without ristolainen. We arent trading him for one</div></div>

This is a really good return, I would like more but has a lot of merits
Ristolainen, Rasmus &lt; Larsson, Adam + 2021 2nd round pick (EDM) Put Larsson with Dahlin and let Dahlin set the world on fire scoring.
Girgensons, Zemgus &lt; Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights] certainly considering the potential of JP.
Buffalo also adds $2,000,000 of cap because I cannot see how J P could be worth a big raise, he would probably get a bridge deal
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4, 2019 at 10:09
Thread: Puljujarvi and Gagner for Sheary and Scandella
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurgerBoss</b></div><div>EDM loses here. Sheary, Scandella or Gagner don't bring anything, Pulju is young and still possible to rebound to be at least better than the rest of the included assets.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wagsnags</b></div><div>Boston Bruins I think your trade fits for a hockey trade.... Edmonton certainly needs D help and they are giving up the best asset in the deal but they are getting back the #2 &amp; #3 assets in the deal. Boss is correct if the deal is just a straight deal where both teams are equal in their current teams talent..... in this particular situation the Sabres are dealing from their excess (though with Pilut on LTIR they are a bit thin for the moment) and Edmonton is dealing forward depth.

If I am GMBots I say giddy up cowboy.... Sam &amp; Jessi welcome to Buffalo. If necessary the Sabres could afford to toss in a 5th or 6th Round pick.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Sheary is a good hockey player. He had some bad puck luck, but he can play all over the lineup</div></div>

thanks, Sheary playing 3rd line minutes with 3rd line mates had 34 points (only 5 less than Jesse has has in his career) and would have been the Oilers 5th best forward ranking only behind their top 3 centers and Chiasson. IMO put him with McDavid or Draisaitl and he will do better.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4, 2019 at 7:35
Thread: Puljujarvi and Gagner for Sheary and Scandella
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurgerBoss</b></div><div>EDM loses here. Sheary, Scandella or Gagner don't bring anything, Pulju is young and still possible to rebound to be at least better than the rest of the included assets.</div></div>

Here is how I saw the trade,
Scandella &gt; Gagner especially considering Gagner over the last 6 years has played for 5 different teams, twice picked off of waivers, once traded for 2 cap dumps, once traded for 6th round pick.
Sheary &lt; Puljujarvi since Jesse has indicated that he is unhappy in Edmonton I thought a former winger who put up over 50 pts with a good center could do the same with McDavid.
Edmonton could use defense and a speedy, hard working, shooter and Buffalo could use a center and a prospect.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 3, 2019 at 3:11
Thread: Scandella
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Who are you talking about with $11 million for a #7 dman and bottom 6 RW? Okposo and Scandella?
And what does Hall being UFA have to do with anything?

K so you're talking out of both sides of your mouth, in one paragraph you're saying maybe Gagner could get back to his 50 point season like he had in Columbus but then you're saying 30 points is probably too much for him cause he's too unpredictable? So which is it cause if you look at his first season in Vancouver he hit the 30 point mark and his two stints of NHL time last season average out to a 33 point season if he plays a full 82 games in the NHL. Buffalo has plenty of guys who will hit the 30 point mark whereas Edmonton doesn't and they have enough defensemen who can do what Scandella does, seriously Edmonton needs Gagner more then they need Scandella plus I'm not sure if Gagner is really an option at center anymore, probably better suited to the wing at this point.</div></div>

"Who are you talking about with $11 million for a #7 dman and bottom 6 RW? Okposo and Scandella?" No Okposo and Bogosian. Right now Scandella would be the 2nd or 3rd pairing LHD.
"And what does Hall being UFA have to do with anything?" He will be a free agent next year and without Okposo and Bogosian, the Sabres would have the cap space to try to sign him, that is what he has to do with the conversation.
I am referring to Sam's trade history, or maybe you over looked that. In the last 5 years he was picked off of waivers twice , traded for a 6th then later for 2 cap dumps.
One has to question why Edmonton cannot find wingers to score with McDavid, Draisaitl and Nugent-Hopkins at center.
On the other hand, only Nurse had more goals than Scandella so I hold my ground Scandella would fit in very nicely as an Oiler LHD, while it is a gamble that Gagner may get back to 50 pts because he only reached that once in his entire career.
So I am not talking out of both sides of my mouth, but rather "IF" Sam could do as well next year as he did 2 years ago it would be a great trade for Buffalo. "IF" Marco could return to his performance of the previous year, it is a great trade for Edmonton.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 3, 2019 at 1:56
Thread: Scandella
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>Sabres probably would prefer to just get a late pick back, but they might take gagner as he is a million cheaper and would help the middle 6 if no other moves are made. Its frustrating having a not good team and being at the cap to boot.</div></div>
Check out Gagner from 2 years ago when he was with Columbus. He had a team high of 2.7 pt/60, 54.18% corsi, 4th with 18 goals and 5th with 50 pts. If he could find that mojo in Buffalo, well who knows. I think it is a trade that works for both teams.
As for the cap, $11,000,000 for our 7th defenseman and bottom 6 RW, ouch! It will be better next year when Hall is a UFA!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>As much as the Oilers could use some help on defense I think they're going to need Gagner's 30 or so points more.
Maybe if it was a Sheary,Scandella for Gagner,? It'd work but then it's basically just a swap of the same stuff, no significant improvement of cap savings for either team.</div></div>
That is just a little too much for Sam. He is too unpredictable.
2014-Jun-29 Traded with B.J. Crombeen to Phoenix Coyotes for round 6 pick in the 2015 draft
2015-Jun-27 Traded from Arizona Coyotes with conditional round 4 pick in the 2016 draft (Otto Koivula) to Philadelphia Flyers for Chris Pronger and Nicklas Grossmann
2016-Aug-01 Signed by Columbus Blue Jackets
2017-Jul-01 Signed by Vancouver Canucks
2019-Feb-16 Traded from Vancouver Canucks to Edmonton Oilers for Ryan Spooner
Traded for a 6th, traded with a 4th for cap dumps, UFA signed, UFA signed, and a player who is in Europe now.
Scandella for Gagner is just about right, Buffalo needs a help at center, Edmonton needs help on defense.