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We need to see where the 1st round pick ends up before making any judgements

Created by: sensonfire
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 4, 2021
Published: Nov. 4, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Team Explanation
Unless there's lottery protection.
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Tuch, Alex
  2. Krebs, Peyton
  3. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
The odds that Vegas makes the playoffs amount to a coin flip, per moneypuck.


And if the 2022 draft were held today, the 1st round pick from Vegas would be the 7th overall pick.


Per tankathon.
VGK
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
BUF
FLA
VGK
BUF
BUF
BUF
NJD
BUF
BUF
2023
BUF
BUF
PHI
VGK
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2024
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$61,300,013$113,916$1,262,500$20,199,987
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Asplund, Rasmus
$825,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
BUF
Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 1
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Bjork, Anders
$1,600,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
$894,167
C, LW
RFA - 2
BUF
Hinostroza, Vinnie
$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
BUF
Ruotsalainen, Arttu
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Caggiula, Drake
$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
VGK
Krebs, Peyton
$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 3
VGK
Tuch, Alex
$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$6,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
BUF
Butcher, Will
$2,822,764
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Anderson, Craig
$750,000
G
UFA - 1
BUF
Bryson, Jacob
$889,166
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Tokarski, Dustin
$725,000
G
UFA - 1
BUF
Hägg, Robert
$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Pysyk, Mark
$900,000
RD, RW
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Murray, Brett
$775,000
LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$3,050,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
BUF
Hayden, John
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 3
BUF
Wolanin, Christian
$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Mittelstadt, Casey
$2,500,000
C
RFA - 3

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Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:26 a.m.
#1
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imo the best you can hope for is a mid first, but likely sabres are going to end up somewhere in the mid to late 20's.
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:27 a.m.
#2
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20-25
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:29 a.m.
#3
Joined: Jun. 2018
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Top 10 protected
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:32 a.m.
#4
exo2769
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We can still judge, BUT why wouldn't BUF take the best offer. I feel confident in saying that CGY wasn't offering much better.
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:32 a.m.
#5
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sensonfire
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Quoting: Not_Not_Batman
Top 10 protected


Where do you see that?


If that's the case, Vegas wins the trade.
Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:34 a.m.
#6
It was 3-1
Joined: Mar. 2018
Posts: 250
Likes: 107
Quoting: sensonfire
Where do you see that?


If that's the case, Vegas wins the trade.


Dreger reported its top ten protected this year.
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:49 a.m.
#7
Vegan Commie Hipster
Joined: Oct. 2020
Posts: 7,888
Likes: 3,256
Say it with me folks:

Small Sample Sizes!

Moneypuck has VGK at 51.1% playoff likely right now in large part because of their 48.9% team Corsi in part ​because pac and stone have 4gp combined

Also team performance fluctuates randomly

They're a 53% + true talent Corsi team when healthy

Stone returns soon. Pac returns Dec. WK in jan.

When Eichel returns in February they'll start to 🔥

I'll bet anyone here $100* they make the playoffs

*dogecoin
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:51 a.m.
#8
Vegan Commie Hipster
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Playoffs are definitely randomly volatile and 60 win teams lose first round occasionally so yeah the pick could be late teens but that's still very unlikely
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 8:51 a.m.
#9
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this is laughably bad (which alot of us called a lower return) the centerpiece in this deal is krebs. the pick will not be top 10. and if it is buffalo gets screwed even harder. cant imagine this was the best offer they got.
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 10:28 a.m.
#10
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Quoting: sensonfire
Where do you see that?


If that's the case, Vegas wins the trade.


Even if it wasn’t, vegas wins the trade.
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Nov. 4, 2021 at 10:28 a.m.
#11
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Quoting: exo2769
We can still judge, BUT why wouldn't BUF take the best offer. I feel confident in saying that CGY wasn't offering much better.

You should feel ridiculously confident that the package from Calgary was severely misreported.
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