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Oilers Deadline

Created by: Cabbie91
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 24, 2021
Published: Nov. 24, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Chiarot, Ben ($1,700,000 retained)
  2. 2022 4th round pick (TBL)
MTL
  1. Lavoie, Raphael
  2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Motte, Tyler
VAN
  1. Turris, Kyle
  2. 2023 4th round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • James Neal: $1,916,667
  • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
EDM
TBL
EDM
EDM
EDM
2023
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2024
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,121,968$669,339$907,500$1,378,032
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
EDM
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
EDM
Yamamoto, Kailer
$1,175,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
EDM
Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
EDM
McLeod, Ryan
$834,167
C
RFA - 1
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
EDM
Perlini, Brendan
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
EDM
Ryan, Derek
$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
VAN
Motte, Tyler
$1,225,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Bouchard, Evan
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
EDM
Skinner, Stuart
$750,000
G
RFA - 2
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$1,800,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Barrie, Tyson
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
EDM
Ceci, Cody
$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Russell, Kris
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
EDM
Koekkoek, Slater
$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Lagesson, William
$725,000
LD
RFA - 1
EDM
Shore, Devin
$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Smith, Mike
$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
EDM
Benson, Tyler
$750,000
LW
RFA - 1
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Stalock, Alex
$785,000
G
UFA - 1

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Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:00 p.m.
#1
PittsburghModelMyAss
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You're not getting a Prospect AND a 1st... it's one or the other
Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:11 p.m.
#2
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Way too much going to the habs.
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Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
#3
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Hard pass by the Oilers....
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Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:16 p.m.
#4
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
You're not getting a Prospect AND a 1st... it's one or the other


He's not worth a 1st. A 3rd/4th OR a B prospect.
Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:26 p.m.
#5
I post sometimes
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Quoting: CD282
He's not worth a 1st. A 3rd/4th OR a B prospect.


the guy was playing 28 min per game during the playoffs and its the market : in a void yes... thats his value, but at TD where all team want to make their team better - he is worth a first.... lord, Savard got a first.

and we are talking a top 25 pick too.
Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:37 p.m.
#6
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
the guy was playing 28 min per game during the playoffs and its the market : in a void yes... thats his value, but at TD where all team want to make their team better - he is worth a first.... lord, Savard got a first.

and we are talking a top 25 pick too.


You keep pointing out the Savard trade while failing to acknowledge that many replacement level defensemen change teams every deadline for far less than a 1st. https://www.capfriendly.com/trades?event=deadline
Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:37 p.m.
#7
oilsince95
Joined: Jun. 2016
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I have come around on Chiarot (half retained) for a 1st. If Nurse is out at all longer than 2-3 weeks, Chiarot would be not just for a playoff run, but helping the backend not collapse mid season. With Koekkoek out, Russell plays more, which usually leads to Russell getting banged up. Keith is already banged up too, and even if not out long, playing 25 mins a night he is sure to keep getting sore and miss more. Broberg is looking nice, but playing him 20 mins or more could be quite bad for his development imo, that's intense. At this point, with the team when playing well poised to make that pick in the late part of the 1st round, I would be happy to send it for Chiarot at half price. Just my take though. Chiarot's value being not just a playoff piece, but a regular season patch up as well, makes it probably worth it.
Nov. 24, 2021 at 2:58 p.m.
#8
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Quoting: oilsince95
I have come around on Chiarot (half retained) for a 1st. If Nurse is out at all longer than 2-3 weeks, Chiarot would be not just for a playoff run, but helping the backend not collapse mid season. With Koekkoek out, Russell plays more, which usually leads to Russell getting banged up. Keith is already banged up too, and even if not out long, playing 25 mins a night he is sure to keep getting sore and miss more. Broberg is looking nice, but playing him 20 mins or more could be quite bad for his development imo, that's intense. At this point, with the team when playing well poised to make that pick in the late part of the 1st round, I would be happy to send it for Chiarot at half price. Just my take though. Chiarot's value being not just a playoff piece, but a regular season patch up as well, makes it probably worth it.


Keith played 23:25 on average last year, playing 25 for a couple of weeks is a walk in the park for him.

Stop panicking. Nurse will be back in 2 weeks or less.
Nov. 24, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
#9
oilsince95
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Quoting: CD282
Keith played 23:25 on average last year, playing 25 for a couple of weeks is a walk in the park for him.

Stop panicking. Nurse will be back in 2 weeks or less.


Looks like Keith is out too. So If Russell, Broberg, Lagesson are left side for more than just tonight, then yes I'll be slightly panicked. But not sure how serious what happened to him will end up being. Hard to tell with older guys.
Nov. 24, 2021 at 3:21 p.m.
#10
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Quoting: oilsince95
Looks like Keith is out too. So If Russell, Broberg, Lagesson are left side for more than just tonight, then yes I'll be slightly panicked. But not sure how serious what happened to him will end up being. Hard to tell with older guys.


Keith is out day-to-day. Broberg can handle tons of minutes (not ideal due to being young, but he's an effortless skater with great conditioning) and maybe they get a look at Niemeläinen, too. The next 4-5 games aren't going to make or break the season.
Nov. 24, 2021 at 5:51 p.m.
#11
Habs_fan
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As a Habs fan, the 1st rounder is more than enough for Chiarot, but at the deadline depending on how many other teams come calling, Oilers may have to sweeten the pot a little
Nov. 25, 2021 at 9:03 a.m.
#12
PittsburghModelMyAss
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Quoting: CD282
He's not worth a 1st. A 3rd/4th OR a B prospect.


That’s your opinion, but precedent will dictate what he’s worth. Which is most likely a late 1st
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Nov. 25, 2021 at 9:23 a.m.
#13
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
That’s your opinion, but precedent will dictate what he’s worth. Which is most likely a late 1st

Look at last year's deadline and all the replacement level defensemen that were traded for mid and late round picks. Why are those not precedents for you? Because you're looking at the situation through a biased lens.

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades?season=2021&event=deadline
Nov. 25, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
#14
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Chiarot has been linked to the OIlers by two separate sources who both indicate that Holland is willing to move a 1st and prospects for a "gritty top 4 LHD". I don't get the issue. Lavoie has 4 points in I believe 14 games and the Oilers first is looking like a glorified 2nd rounder lol
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Nov. 26, 2021 at 6:11 a.m.
#15
PittsburghModelMyAss
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Quoting: CD282
Look at last year's deadline and all the replacement level defensemen that were traded for mid and late round picks. Why are those not precedents for you? Because you're looking at the situation through a biased lens.

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades?season=2021&event=deadline


Lol, IM the biased one? All those examples you just pointed out are for guys that are #6/7 dmen
Nov. 26, 2021 at 7:39 a.m.
#16
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
Lol, IM the biased one? All those examples you just pointed out are for guys that are #6/7 dmen

That's what Chiarot is, properly slotted. A 3rd pairing defenseman.
Nov. 26, 2021 at 9:06 a.m.
#17
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Quoting: CD282
That's what Chiarot is, properly slotted. A 3rd pairing defenseman.


I'm a Habs fan Ben Chiarot IS NOT a bottom pair dman. watch hockey...this statement is laughable. He's a top 4 DMAN all day long
Nov. 26, 2021 at 9:09 a.m.
#18
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Quoting: Cabbie91
I'm a Habs fan Ben Chiarot IS NOT a bottom pair dman. watch hockey...this statement is laughable. He's a top 4 DMAN all day long


Not a good top-4. Look at his results OVER HIS ENTIRE CAREER, he's never been good defensively. If he's in the top-4 but he's the weak link, he doesn't belong there. If he WAS a good top-4 guy, you'd want to re-sign him, but you don't.
Nov. 26, 2021 at 3:29 p.m.
#19
PittsburghModelMyAss
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Quoting: CD282
Not a good top-4. Look at his results OVER HIS ENTIRE CAREER, he's never been good defensively. If he's in the top-4 but he's the weak link, he doesn't belong there. If he WAS a good top-4 guy, you'd want to re-sign him, but you don't.


True, he was the weak link last year on a SCF team playing 25 physically dominant and tough defensive min a night. #freezingcoldtake
Nov. 26, 2021 at 3:46 p.m.
#20
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Quoting: TheGHANDI90
True, he was the weak link last year on a SCF team playing 25 physically dominant and tough defensive min a night. #freezingcoldtake

Did you really just say that in response to a post that says "Look at his results OVER HIS ENTIRE CAREER" ??

You should be embarrased.
Nov. 26, 2021 at 7:01 p.m.
#21
PittsburghModelMyAss
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Quoting: CD282
Did you really just say that in response to a post that says "Look at his results OVER HIS ENTIRE CAREER" ??

You should be embarrased.


OHHHH right my bad. So current NHL GMS are gonna start trading for players based on what they did back in 2009, makes total sense
 
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