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Manson extended 4x 525

Created by: reelkena
Published: Dec. 1, 2021 at 4:19 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 149/200 (75%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

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OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Manson, JoshAnaheim DucksNHL-$3,054,500111---0000--
Henrique, AdamAnaheim DucksNHL-$4,339,625111---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Myers, TylerVancouver CanucksNHL-$4,470,000111---0000--
Boeser, BrockVancouver CanucksNHL-$4,376,875111---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$11,826,6632244623511
Change-$1,452,750000000
Final$10,373,913 (↓)2244623511000

Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVancouver Canucks

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $6,112,500
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $3,637,500
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Myers, TylerVancouver CanucksNHL-$6,000,000111---0000--
Boeser, BrockVancouver CanucksNHL-$5,875,000111---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Manson, JoshAnaheim DucksNHL-$4,100,000111---0000--
Henrique, AdamAnaheim DucksNHL-$5,825,000111---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,475,0002246663511
Change$1,950,000000000
Final$4,425,000 (↑)2246663511000
Dec. 1, 2021 at 4:20 p.m.
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I hate this trade btw but we have to pay to delete Myers from our team.
Dec. 1, 2021 at 4:24 p.m.
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I hate this trade btw but we have to pay to delete Myers from our team.


At least you're not giving up picks to do it......
Dec. 1, 2021 at 4:40 p.m.
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I think I like this a lot
Dec. 1, 2021 at 5:17 p.m.
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This is absolutely atrocious for Vancouver. Josh Manson isn't as good as he use to be and I'm surprised at how many people haven't pick upon that, he won't cost more than a 2nd or 3rd rounder at the trade deadline as a rental, plus Myers is arguably more valuable than Henrique

If I had to predict what I think Manson will get on the open Market, I'd say he scores an AAV in the $2.5-3.75 million dollar range on a 2-4 year deal. Definitely not getting $4+ million AAV though
Dec. 1, 2021 at 5:20 p.m.
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This is absolutely atrocious for Vancouver. Josh Manson isn't as good as he use to be and I'm surprised at how many people haven't pick upon that, he won't cost more than a 2nd or 3rd rounder at the trade deadline as a rental, plus Myers is arguably more valuable than Henrique

If I had to predict what I think Manson will get on the open Market, I'd say he scores an AAV in the $2.5-3.75 million dollar range on a 2-4 year deal. Definitely not getting $4+ million AAV though


of all the people on this site that nobody asked...
Dec. 1, 2021 at 5:25 p.m.
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of all the people on this site that nobody asked...


Did anybody ASK you to be some kind of police force for this site?
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Dec. 1, 2021 at 8:53 p.m.
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Did anybody ASK you to be some kind of police force for this site?


Your opinion is not wanted here. Find 5 more trades to post and go away.
Dec. 1, 2021 at 9:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
This is absolutely atrocious for Vancouver. Josh Manson isn't as good as he use to be and I'm surprised at how many people haven't pick upon that, he won't cost more than a 2nd or 3rd rounder at the trade deadline as a rental, plus Myers is arguably more valuable than Henrique

If I had to predict what I think Manson will get on the open Market, I'd say he scores an AAV in the $2.5-3.75 million dollar range on a 2-4 year deal. Definitely not getting $4+ million AAV though


You think one of the worst players in the league making 6M is more valuable than a quality NHLer over paid by 1-1.5M? There’s no argument to be had. There isn’t a player in the league that Myers is more valuable than.
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Dec. 1, 2021 at 10:29 p.m.
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You think one of the worst players in the league making 6M is more valuable than a quality NHLer over paid by 1-1.5M? There’s no argument to be had. There isn’t a player in the league that Myers is more valuable than.


Hence the bribe of Boeser for Henrique and a rental. (that we extend)
Dec. 1, 2021 at 10:39 p.m.
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Quoting: reelkena
Hence the bribe of Boeser for Henrique and a rental. (that we extend)


I know. I was replying to him starting that Myers was more valuable than Henrique.
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Dec. 1, 2021 at 10:52 p.m.
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I know. I was replying to him starting that Myers was more valuable than Henrique.


My apologies, what I meant to say is that while I think a Myers for Henrique swap could be entertained, I'd be lying if I said I would take it in a heartbeat. Myers is a far better player than he's given credit for, he's a decent skater and is good at moving the puck, sure, he has his defensive warts, but he's not a complete liability like players such as Shayne Gostisbehere, Tyson Barrie, and Toney DeAngelo

I would agree that like Henrique, Myers provides about 60-70% of his contract's value
Dec. 1, 2021 at 10:55 p.m.
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Quoting: reelkena
Your opinion is not wanted here. Find 5 more trades to post and go away.


We can only post maximum 5 trade proposals in a 24 hour span. Do you see anyone else here accusing me of trolling?
Dec. 2, 2021 at 1:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
We can only post maximum 5 trade proposals in a 24 hour span. Do you see anyone else here accusing me of trolling?


I'm not accusing you of trolling. I think you think it's reasonable to spam trades every day.

I'm accusing you of being obnoxious and acting like you know tons about trades when they all either have little impact or make no sense, then you accuse me of the same.

Also Myers is 5% of Henrique not more than. His contract is 2 mil too much for a middle pair minute eater with downside decision making and PIMs.
Dec. 2, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.
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I'm not accusing you of trolling. I think you think it's reasonable to spam trades every day.

I'm accusing you of being obnoxious and acting like you know tons about trades when they all either have little impact or make no sense, then you accuse me of the same.

Also Myers is 5% of Henrique not more than. His contract is 2 mil too much for a middle pair minute eater with downside decision making and PIMs.


I'm sure I've said this before, but I don't feel like I'm spamming. When I express my takes when it comes to things like trade value, I don't put down other users for having different takes. In this thread for example, you tried to kick me out without even bothering to look at what kind of input I was looking to offer here. If we still disagree on the value of the assets in question here, that's totally cool with me
Dec. 2, 2021 at 3:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
I'm sure I've said this before, but I don't feel like I'm spamming. When I express my takes when it comes to things like trade value, I don't put down other users for having different takes. In this thread for example, you tried to kick me out without even bothering to look at what kind of input I was looking to offer here. If we still disagree on the value of the assets in question here, that's totally cool with me


The only way we have to evaluate other peoples comments on here is like rate.

Your 16% like rate says a lot. It means most people don't agree when they see your comments.

At some point the value of somebody who only comes into my comments to say no actually this player is worth half that number (based on no context) with a low like rate clearly isn't worth my time.

Especially when I have never seen something you said that I agree with and your response is usually to say a ton of spread out trade opinions and then immediately declare agree to disagree like you have the final say and anything else is just looking for a fight.

Well you came to this thread to argue Manson and Myers' value so I guess agree to disagree.
Dec. 2, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.
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Quoting: reelkena
The only way we have to evaluate other peoples comments on here is like rate.

Your 16% like rate says a lot. It means most people don't agree when they see your comments.

At some point the value of somebody who only comes into my comments to say no actually this player is worth half that number (based on no context) with a low like rate clearly isn't worth my time.

Especially when I have never seen something you said that I agree with and your response is usually to say a ton of spread out trade opinions and then immediately declare agree to disagree like you have the final say and anything else is just looking for a fight.

Well you came to this thread to argue Manson and Myers' value so I guess agree to disagree.


Where is there any sort of "rate" statistic? One can only expect so many other people to agree with their personal takes
Dec. 2, 2021 at 8:09 p.m.
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Where is there any sort of "rate" statistic? One can only expect so many other people to agree with their personal takes


Alright, nvm
Dec. 3, 2021 at 6:35 p.m.
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You need to comment more............@Rhea and I miss you
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