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Dec. 5, 2021 at 5:05 p.m.
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interesting.

Can the bruins afford this cap?
Dec. 5, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.
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CGY Hard declines. Debrusk stock is so low. So is Monahans but Centre's have more worth then wingers
Dec. 5, 2021 at 5:32 p.m.
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Deal!
Dec. 5, 2021 at 5:33 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
CGY Hard declines. Debrusk stock is so low. So is Monahans but Centre's have more worth then wingers

One thing working in Boston’s favor for a potential move like this is that debrusk is much less of a financial commitment.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 5:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
interesting.

Can the bruins afford this cap?


i think they could do some moving around to make it work. most likely try to send moore to ari or something
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Dec. 5, 2021 at 5:38 p.m.
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Quoting: hazard
CGY Hard declines. Debrusk stock is so low. So is Monahans but Centre's have more worth then wingers


Actually, that, combined with the cap leads me to fix the deal:

Monahan for Debrusk and Haula. CGY will need a center back. Value is slightly tipped to Boston. Haula hasn't worked in Boston.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 5:49 p.m.
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Actually, that, combined with the cap leads me to fix the deal:

Monahan for Debrusk and Haula. CGY will need a center back. Value is slightly tipped to Boston. Haula hasn't worked in Boston.


i would be willing to do this deal but 1 problem we just signed him as a free agent, i feel that gives a team bad rep if they move guys literally a few months after signing them in FA, provides no stability or loyalty which bruins are 2 pretty important things for boston
Dec. 5, 2021 at 5:52 p.m.
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This is not a good deal for CGY. The QO for DeBrusk is 4.8m which I doubt they will want to get involved in.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 6:15 p.m.
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This is not a good deal for CGY. The QO for DeBrusk is 4.8m which I doubt they will want to get involved in.


better than having 6.375 for monahan next year, when they are already cap strapped.

what this thread reveals is, who is still high on monahan and who knows what he really is. he's barely a 2C anymore.

The best thing Calgary did, and a major reason why they are thriving right now, is they took Monahan off that top line. He was a deadweight.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.
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better than having 6.375 for monahan next year, when they are already cap strapped.

what this thread reveals is, who is still high on monahan and who knows what he really is. he's barely a 2C anymore.

The best thing Calgary did, and a major reason why they are thriving right now, is they took Monahan off that top line. He was a deadweight.


For one reason or another, something isn't working with Monahan.

I do agree with the notion that his QO is not great. I also feel he could get a different and more helpful return if they seriously look to move him.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
This is not a good deal for CGY. The QO for DeBrusk is 4.8m which I doubt they will want to get involved in.


QO is $4.41M, not $4.85M like some people believe.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 6:35 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
QO is $4.41M, not $4.85M like some people believe.


Whichever is the actual figure, its more than what his output has been. Im not coming here to diss on the guy. We have a similar scenario with Dylan Strome. The likely outcome for both is a new home, but I don't feel CGY is that place for DeBrusk and its not solely from the QO.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: bhavikp27
QO is $4.41M, not $4.85M like some people believe.


Why is ot not 4.85? The new QO rules only apply to deals that were signed after they were implemented?
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Dec. 5, 2021 at 7:58 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
One thing working in Boston’s favor for a potential move like this is that debrusk is much less of a financial commitment.


Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
For one reason or another, something isn't working with Monahan.

I do agree with the notion that his QO is not great. I also feel he could get a different and more helpful return if they seriously look to move him.


Monahan has actually been progressing back to normal recently, and he was Calgary's best player 2 days aho in Anaheim. What wasnt working was his hip, last season.
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Dec. 5, 2021 at 8:22 p.m.
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Monahan has actually been progressing back to normal recently, and he was Calgary's best player 2 days aho in Anaheim. What wasnt working was his hip, last season.


I don’t think a good game against anaheim will outweigh the three seasons of decline he’s shown.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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I don’t think a good game against anaheim will outweigh the three seasons of decline he’s shown.


3 seasons? It was 1 season of "decline" and 1 season of injured since game 6. Neither were full seasons either. He was barely cleared to play hockey before the season started this year and ahs slowly been returning to form.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 8:51 p.m.
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3 seasons? It was 1 season of "decline" and 1 season of injured since game 6. Neither were full seasons either. He was barely cleared to play hockey before the season started this year and ahs slowly been returning to form.


Let’s just not make it out like a good game against anaheim has erased all the questions.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 8:53 p.m.
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Let’s just not make it out like a good game against anaheim has erased all the questions.


I said he was the best player on the team that game, he has been playing well for a few games
Dec. 5, 2021 at 8:59 p.m.
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I said he was the best player on the team that game, he has been playing well for a few games


The discussion was if his contract was an asset or not. I don’t think a few good games makes any case for that.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 9:04 p.m.
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The discussion was if his contract was an asset or not. I don’t think a few good games makes any case for that.


Sure but it's 100% a step in the right direction.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 9:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Sure but it's 100% a step in the right direction.


Sure. Debrusk scoring the other night is as well. Doesn’t erase the question marks, or make his QO any better though.
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Dec. 5, 2021 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Why is ot not 4.85? The new QO rules only apply to deals that were signed after they were implemented?


According to the NHL/NHLPA MOU:
#68. Qualifying offers
For SPCs signed after the date of this agreement, if the minimum Paragraph 1 NHL Salary portion of a Player’s Qualifying Offer would otherwise be greater than 120% of the Averaged Amount of the SPC, the minimum Paragraph 1 NHL Salary portion of the Qualifying Offer will instead be 120% of the Averaged Amount.

Year 1 base salary is $2.5M. Year 2 is $4.85M. It's greater than 120% (194% in this case).

Previous AAV/Average Amount is $3.675M. Multiply it by 120% = $4.41M.
Dec. 5, 2021 at 10:18 p.m.
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According to the NHL/NHLPA MOU:
#68. Qualifying offers
For SPCs signed after the date of this agreement, if the minimum Paragraph 1 NHL Salary portion of a Player’s Qualifying Offer would otherwise be greater than 120% of the Averaged Amount of the SPC, the minimum Paragraph 1 NHL Salary portion of the Qualifying Offer will instead be 120% of the Averaged Amount.

Year 1 base salary is $2.5M. Year 2 is $4.85M. It's greater than 120% (194% in this case).

Previous AAV/Average Amount is $3.675M. Multiply it by 120% = $4.41M.


Ah I see where the confusing is, I was under the impression that DeBrusk signed his current deal before the CBA change
 
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