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Hypothetical Trades

Created by: soooonk
Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 8, 2021
Published: Dec. 9, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Not worried about cap space here.
Looking to see if values are close or not and then can adjust for cap space depending on who we could actually get.
Trades
1.
MTL
    Jusso Valimaki
    Mathias Emilo Pettersen
    2022 2nd
    2.
    CGY
    1. Leddy, Nick ($2,750,000 retained)
    DET
      Nikita Zadorov
      Matthew Phillips
      2022 2nd
      3.
      CGY
      1. Giordano, Mark ($3,250,000 retained)
      Additional Details:
      Arizona or Buffalo retain cap for a 3rd
      SEA
        Nikita Zadorov
        Matthew Phillips
        2023 3rd
        4.
        OTT
          Mathias Emilio Pettersen
          Tyler Pitlick
          2022 1st
          5.
          CGY
          1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($1,500,000 retained)
          STL
            Jusso Valimaki
            Dillon Dube
            2022 2nd
            6.
            CGY
            1. Kessel, Phil ($3,000,000 retained)
            ARI
              Matthew Phillips
              Emil Heineman
              2022 2nd
              7.
              CGY
              1. Hertl, Tomas ($1,625,000 retained)
              SJS
                Matthew Phillips
                Ryan Francis
                2022 1st
                2023 4th
                Buyouts
                DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
                2022
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                2023
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                Logo of the CGY
                Logo of the CGY
                Logo of the CGY
                2024
                Logo of the CGY
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                ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                29$81,500,000$90,064,166$0$15,000-$8,564,166
                Left WingCentreRight Wing
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                $6,750,000$6,750,000
                LW
                M-NTC
                UFA - 1
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                $4,850,000$4,850,000
                C, RW
                UFA - 3
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                $7,000,000$7,000,000
                RW
                UFA - 1
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                $4,900,000$4,900,000
                RW, LW
                NTC
                UFA - 6
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                $5,350,000$5,350,000
                C
                M-NTC
                UFA - 3
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $2,425,000$2,425,000
                RW, LW
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $5,250,000$5,250,000
                LW, RW
                M-NTC, NMC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $6,375,000$6,375,000
                C, LW, RW
                M-NTC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $800,000$800,000
                C
                UFA - 1
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                $2,300,000$2,300,000
                LW, RW, C
                RFA - 3
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $801,666$801,666 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
                LW, C
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $800,000$800,000
                RW, C
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the San Jose Sharks
                $4,000,000$4,000,000
                C
                M-NTC
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the St. Louis Blues
                $2,250,000$2,250,000
                RW
                NTC
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Ottawa Senators
                $3,600,000$3,600,000
                RW, LW
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
                $2,125,000$2,125,000
                RW, LW
                UFA - 3
                Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
                $3,800,000$3,800,000
                RW
                M-NTC, NMC
                UFA - 1
                Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $1,237,500$1,237,500
                LD
                UFA - 3
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                $4,550,000$4,550,000
                RD
                UFA - 5
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                $6,000,000$6,000,000
                G
                NMC
                UFA - 5
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $750,000$750,000
                LD/RD
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $1,125,000$1,125,000
                RD
                M-NTC
                UFA - 3
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $750,000$750,000
                G
                UFA - 2
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $3,750,000$3,750,000
                LD/RD
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $1,950,000$1,950,000
                RD
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Seattle Kraken
                $125,000$125,000
                LD
                M-NTC
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
                $0$0
                LD
                UFA - 1
                ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $750,000$750,000
                RD
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $900,000$900,000
                RW
                UFA - 1
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $1,550,000$1,550,000
                LD
                RFA - 2
                Logo of the Calgary Flames
                $1,750,000$1,750,000
                RW
                UFA - 1

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                Dec. 9, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.
                #1
                retired
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                habs accept

                would be nice seeing gio back in calgary
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                Dec. 9, 2021 at 2:10 p.m.
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                Yep Mtlt takes it
                Dec. 9, 2021 at 2:11 p.m.
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                Even if you took away the retention, I'm not sure the Blues go for that. They're probably not that interested in Dube.
                Dec. 9, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
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                Xercuses
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                Not enough for VT with Retaition as i dont see dube being a needle mover
                Dec. 9, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.
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                Quoting: mokumboi
                Even if you took away the retention, I'm not sure the Blues go for that. They're probably not that interested in Dube.


                Quoting: xercuses
                Not enough for VT with Retaition as i dont see dube being a needle mover


                Good to know. What do you think would work? Even in general terms
                Dec. 9, 2021 at 2:32 p.m.
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                Quoting: soooonk
                Good to know. What do you think would work? Even in general terms


                Tkchuck bring him home (jk)
                for one Armstrong doesnt retain at all idk why but he just never will
                also he hates trading inter division or inter west - central again idk why but dude hates it
                so for VT a guy he likes whos on fire to get him to go to CGY with retaintion too much
                without retation probably (trying not to be bais)
                but i assume hed ask first off for hanifin but imo a value that equals 2 firsts and second probably gets it done but blues dont want futres they want a top 9 LW and top 4 LD back for VT and a mid prospect for what ive seen idk if CGY has the ablity to do that atm but thats the ask as per value wise in the public opion its either high or low personally i value him really highly
                Dec. 9, 2021 at 2:33 p.m.
                #7
                yippee
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                Wings should accept, that's a good haul for Leddy and Zadorov is a good temporary replacement to help CGY shed the cap space needed.
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                Dec. 9, 2021 at 2:47 p.m.
                #8
                sensonfire
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                Swap out MEP and Pitlick for either Pelletier, Zary or Coronato and it's more fair.

                If Ottawa is trading Connor Brown, we'll be looking for a similar package that New Jersey got for Blake Coleman.
                Dec. 9, 2021 at 3:03 p.m.
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                I like the bones of the VT trade, might need a slight sweetener though.
                Dec. 9, 2021 at 7:58 p.m.
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                Would probably need more in the Brown trade.

                The 2022 1st is likely going to be very late with the way Calgary is playing.

                Pitlick doesn't really move the needle, Ottawa's lw depth is probably the only positional group that doesnt need to be immediately addressed and I know calgary just paid a 4th for him but 2 assists in 21 games really isn't helping pump his value. MEP doesn't do much for value either.

                Brown isnt just a deadline rental, he still has another year on his contract. Given previous deadline deals with an extra year of term left I would think that Calgary would need to upgrade the players a bit in addition to the 1st to get a Brown deal done.
                 
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