I feel like Toffoli should net a similar return as JT Miller did when the Canucks acquired him (Similar numbers)...a 1st+3rd. I don't think the difference between a 2nd and a 3rd is enough to convince the Habs to take that Kassian dump.

Montreal counters a first and borgaut / lavoie + kassian

True. If you are filling the right wing in that manner Lavoie could probably be included.

Not lavoie he is worth less than a 2nd at this point.

i think that is reasonable 1st + bourgault + kassian. The reason i would pick bourgault is because his NHL comparable is basically Toffoli.

Just wanted to point out that Kassian's 5v5 scoring is actually better than Toffoli's this year.

Anderson: 25, 4-5-9 [1.49 P/60]
Kassian: 26, 3-6-9 [1.67]
Toffoli: 26, 1-6-7 [1.26]
Gallagher: 25, 0-5-5 [0.96]

People here will proclaim him a cap dump, useless, etc. The fact is that with the exception of last season when he was battling injuries and illness, he's been reasonably productive over the past few years.

2018-19 + 2019-20

Kassian: 0.84 G/60 and 1.72 P/60
Toffoli: 0.68 G/60 and 1.60 P/60

I'm not seeing a lot of reasons here to make this trade. One hot season?

why do think he is a bust before he even plays a NHL game? the guy had 2 goals last night in the Condors 4-0 win over Abbotsford and is on like 5 game goal streak

lavoie has been on a hot streak lately like 2 points a game or something in the AHL. You cant teach somebody to be big and hit hes got a dimension none of their other forwards have save for holloway.

He is still below .5 ppg on the season in his 2nd year pro. A decent spurt doesnt overwrite a disappointing season

Doesn’t matter which one write it up send one in the package either one. Is fine

It's not just one hot season that toffoli has had, he's been pretty consistently a 20 goal scorer. He did have a bad season in LA but I think toffoli has had a cold season this year. What i like about Toffoli is he's an opportunistic scorer and seems to find spots to score from. Montreal has pretty bad center depth i envision toffoli being like jordan eberle was back in the day when paired with draisaitl.

Bourgault is a lot like toffoli and Lavoie is a lot like James Neal. Its too early to tell what either one will end up being in the end though.

He looks pretty meh by the numbers. You're paying a ton for a guy who doesn't outscore Zack Kassian - pretty sad.

he hasnt this year but as a career average you bet he does.

5v5 goals scored over the past 3.5 seasons:
Toffoli: 38 goals
Kassian: 32 goals

So you're buying less than 2 goals per season and you're willing to give up a 1st + a great prospect for that?

There's gotta be a cheaper way of adding 2 goals and 2 assists per season.

Due to age at time of trade, Miller is probably worth a little bit more because he’d still have some perceived untapped potential (which the canucks were right) and having more time left in his career before his numbers start to decline.

Toffoli''s goal totals:

2017/2018 -24 Goals
2018/2019-13 goals
2019/2020-24 goals
2020-2021-28 goals

I would say that His goals would be closer to 24 per year. Beside an elite setup man like draisaitl i believe it would even be more.

looking at this year when he is on a hrrendous team with bad centers is recency bias.

I was looking at the past 3.5 years. Pay attention.

His goal totals are due to lots of PP time, he wouldn't get prime PP time in Edmonton. And he had great centers in LA and Vancouver, that's no excuse.

What about the PP? Does the NHL not count PP goals anymore?

Yeah, Tampa needed to shed salary though, which I think also affected it. Honestly, if he was a need for my team, I’d be willing to go 1st+3rd. Multiple cheap years

I’d just avoid getting into it with him if I was you…loves analytics that he can cherry pick to show that every Oiler is more valuable than anyone else.

Waste of breath and effort, pal.

Sure it does. But he's not going to get prime PP time in Edmonton, and from checking his PP stats he shouldn't.