What can the Flyers salvage in a second trade involving Rasmus Ristolainen

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Created by: sensonfire

Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2022

Published: Jan. 24, 2022

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Description

6 months ago, the Flyers spent the 14th overall pick and a 2nd round pick on Rasmus Ristolainen.

As of today, the Flyers have lost 11 straight games and are far from competing for a playoff spot at the halfway point of the regular season.

With the NHL trade deadline less than 2 months away and Ristolainen set to become an Unrestricted Free Agent, the situation appears to be rather dire for the Flyers.

Flyers GM Chuck Fletcher will need to do something.

Trades

PHI

Hägg, Robert
Rosén, Isak [Reserve List]
2023 2nd round pick (PHI)

BUF

Ristolainen, Rasmus

Additional Details:

What can the Flyers salvage in a second trade involving Rasmus Ristolainen from another NHL team?

Here are your options:

A 1st round pick

A 2nd round pick

Both

Neither

PHI

Byram, Bowen

COL

I remember when we gave up the pick with the highest odds in the 2019 Draft Lottery as part of the 1st Matt Duchene trade.

Although Colorado didn't win the lottery at the time, it still turned into the 4th overall pick that was used to select Bowen Byram.

PHI

Thomson, Lassi

OTT

In the 2nd Matt Duchene trade with Columbus, we managed to salvage another 1st round pick for 2019.

The 19th overall pick used to select Lassi Thomson.

19th overall is a steep drop from 4th overall.

But it's a 1st round pick nevertheless.

PHI

COL

Byram, Bowen

PHI

OTT

Thomson, Lassi

Buyouts

Ilya Bryzgalov: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$62,944,595	$0	$1,450,000	$18,555,405

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
van Riemsdyk, James $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Giroux, Claude $4,137,500$4,137,500 RW, C NMC UFA - 1	Atkinson, Cam $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Lindblom, Oskar $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Laughton, Scott $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 5	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Mayhew, Gerald $800,000$800,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Frost, Morgan $863,333$863,333 C RFA - 1	Willman, Max $750,000$750,000 LW UFA - 2
Seeler, Nick $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Cates, Jackson $925,000$925,000 C UFA - 1	MacEwen, Zack $825,000$825,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Provorov, Ivan $4,725,000$4,725,000 LD UFA - 4	Braun, Justin $1,800,000$1,800,000 RD UFA - 1	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 3
Sanheim, Travis $4,675,000$4,675,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	York, Cam $880,833$880,833 ($425,000$425K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Jones, Martin $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Yandle, Keith $900,000$900,000 LD NTC UFA - 1	Connauton, Kevin $825,000$825,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Hägg, Robert $1,600,000$1,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Hayes, Kevin $3,571,429$3,571,429 C NMC UFA - 5	Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 6
Allison, Wade $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RW RFA - 1	Farabee, Joel $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Couturier, Sean $4,333,333$4,333,333 C UFA - 1
	Brassard, Derick $412,500$412,500 C, LW UFA - 1
	Thompson, Nate $800,000$800,000 C UFA - 1
	Brown, Patrick $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 2
	Morin, Samuel $750,000$750,000 LD, LW UFA - 1

What can the Flyers salvage in a second trade involving Rasmus Ristolainen?

Jan. 24, 2022 at 12:03 p.m.

Hockey247

Joined: Jul. 2017

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does his performance warrant a 2nd rd pick?

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Jan. 24, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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It's going to be a major L anyways, so Flyers should just re-sign the guy. Give him 2 years at $4,5M or something. Give him time to prove himself in less broken system, because currently the Flyers suck more than Sabres does and that says everything that needs to be said about his and Flyers' current situation.

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Jan. 24, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.

TheBoyDuddus

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I think they can get a late 1st from the right team kind of like you mentioned with Duchene. It just probably wont have all the additional pieces because Risto isnt playing out of his mind like Duchene was at the time.

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Jan. 24, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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Flyers better pray that some contending team finds themselves of a a RHD. Seems like a 2nd rounder, in the mid 20s would be about the best return Risto gets.
I'm surprised this trade didn't get more criticism when it made last summer. Bare playoff teams should never risk a lottery pick on an upcoming UFA.

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Jan. 24, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.

Greysuits

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Quoting: justaBoss

Sabres told themselves the same thing for years about Risto. The problem the Flyers have is that they can't take advantage of the Flyers to overpay for him. I think the Flyers best bet is to take whatever they can get for him at the deadline. If they retain half his salary and take money back they may be able to get a first from a desperate team at the deadline.

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Jan. 24, 2022 at 12:30 p.m.

mbaer84

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Quoting: justaBoss

someone will sign him 6x7mil i bet (im looking at you Pierre from OTT)

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Jan. 24, 2022 at 12:32 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Quoting: Greysuits

Like I said, it's going to be a major L anyway, no matter what they'll do.

I personally would rather try re-signing him for a couple of years rather than move him for highest bidder as a desperation move. The thing is at least with keeping him for a while they MIGHT have a chance for him to bounce back and then get more value out of him.

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Jan. 24, 2022 at 12:32 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Quoting: mbaer84

someone will sign him 6x7mil i bet (im looking at you Pierre from OTT)

Lmao yeah

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Jan. 24, 2022 at 12:47 p.m.

Fjordy

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Risto just bad, he was always like that, unlike ROR, Eichel, Reinhart and McCabe.

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Jan. 24, 2022 at 1:08 p.m.

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BoredWildFan

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Got blasted by Leafs fans a few weeks ago for suggesting Risto ends up in Toronto, but I can still see it. The team needs to get tougher on D. Dubas needs to get past the first round. TOR needs to shed cap space for next season.

Risto with half retained for Toronto 1st, Holl and/or Richie.

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