All that was said was that teams were calling about Garland, I don't think it's the same as the Miller situation. But this team's roster construction does suck and you should be trying to get some cap room.

20th place team with major roster issues, no prospects in the pipeline and no cap space. Whatever is he thinking???

Clear cap space for what though? The players with the best value is all the team has. I understand moving a player or two but for literally it to be altogether Miller, Boeser, Garland, Myers, Pearson, and even Horvat? Naaaahhh bro. Just make some trades that could potentially help the team out and make other moves in the off-season. Because as of now just trading a bunch of players to get some prospects and cap space will only mean a full blown rebuild and some unhappy players and wasting Bruce Boudreau’s time and efforts of getting this team to win as he’s been doing.

If someone blows the doors off for Garland, I think you have to look at it. Players like him are impossible to trade for and I don't think the Canucks are in any hurry to trade Garland. I don't want to move him but if they get a 1st & a grad A/B+ defense prospect like a Ty Smith or Braden Schneider back, I think they should look at it. What's challenging here is the Canucks have the players to trade to rebuild their backend but they are also guys you don't want to move because they are great pieces. This team's start sunk them, and a coaching change was needed, but it's a poorly constructed team with some very good individual talents.

The thing about our forward group is a lot of them are still relatively young and still has room to keep growing their game and keep improving. Our defencemen do need more younger guys though which I trust Rathbone and Woo can fill in those roles in the coming years. But like I said I understand making a trade or two but trading away more than that makes no sense

I like this team tho. They should be trying to get rid of Pearson, Myers and Poolman. Maybe do a Miller or Garland for a Marino/Carlo swap. This team will be fine

The big problem is that this season was Benning's "all in". Next season we could have made a run at for example Filip Forsberg or a RD free agent with the space we were going to have. Instead, we squished right up to the cap and we're stuck there for the foreseeable future.
With no significant prospects coming in (with all due respect, I love Rathbone and Woo but they look unlikely to be more than solid 2nd pairing guys), how does this team get over the top? The way the money is spread out right now makes it impossible to address the biggest issue with the roster, which IMO is the RD's inability to effectively transition the puck and generate offense.
I don't think we're 1 or 2 small moves away from contention. I just don't see how the team as it's built right now gets there.
The reason Miller and Garland come up in trade rumors, instead of Pearson and Myers, is because teams actually WANT the aforementioned players.
I'd be devastated to see Miller, Garland, or Boeser traded, they seem like great guys and are great players, but I want to see this team win a Stanley in my lifetime and it's going to take tough choices and, unfortunately, even more patience to get there.

I'm not a Canucks fan but very much agree with you, I think Vancouver should be trying to add some good player not trade them away.

As you said why waste time and years of guys signed to pretty good value contracts going through a rebuild, for what? To trade a guy like Garland for some picks/prospects/cap space to hope to be good in a few years to then be looking for a Garland type winger?!! Just makes zero sense to me, the Canucks have a decent team and now have a great coach, just need to make a couple additions imo.

I agree as well. The acquisition of Garland could play a good role in the coming years and makes no sense to trade though. Trade Miller makes some sense as he’s a valuable player that generates a lot of offence. I feel like Pearson could end up staying as he’s started putting up some numbers under Boudreau. I would like to see Myers traded as well but I’m unsure what kind of return he can get for us.

Jim Benning was always Jim Benning and without failure always made questionable decisions. But like I said. Our forward group is still relatively young and they’ve been playing really well under Boudreau altogether. I also didn’t say Rathbone and Woo were going to push us over the top. They are younger prospects that could fill roles for the team. Which could be good help for us. LHD is pretty much set when Rathbone is more NHL ready and RHD is questionable but some how working right now. But having Jett Woo for the future does help. But for next season there’s about $17M in cap space and the only big player needing a payday is Boeser. But as of right now clearing the cap still makes no sense unless if it helps us for right now and beyond

This roster definitely has some issues, but this isn't a bottom 10 team by any stretch of the imagination. Retooling this roster won't be any less doable than what Bill Zito did in Florida

I get what you're saying and I understand the sentiment behind it. You shouldn't be clearing out cap on a young, good value forward like Garland, when you'd likely want to use that cap on Garland's replacement who is at best of equal value.

From my point of view, new management is deciding what kind of team they're working with. If you are looking at moving Garland, it's because they've leaned towards the full rebuild side of the spectrum. If they trade Miller or find a way to move OEL or Myers, mayyyybe they can look at getting the team in contention in the nearer future. Personally, I wouldn't blame them for wanting to build the team "from scratch" in their vision. I'm not saying that's the direction they'll go I just personally have a lot more faith in the vision of the new management if they do decide to go that way. It would suck to watch a rebuild at this point, but like I said, I don't care. I just want to see a cup before I'm gone.

Finally, I don't think we're anywhere near a cup contender if we make the playoffs. Not this year nor next, even with the few minor additions we could afford next offseason. Feel free to disagree with that. I'd love to be wrong, honestly.

I love the optimism. Florida did have to contend with Bobrovsky's anchor contract. But now Bob is playing well. The key differences are their leaders all came of age at the right time and they are supplementing them with good young talent in abundance.

And as for us being a bottom 10 team by any stretch of the imagination, well, you don't have to imagine it, just check the standings.

I can see this team being in year 1 of it's contention window as early as 2023-2024, but obviously a lot of things would have to go right for that to happen. I think Vancouver has a pretty strong blueprint to follow looking back at Florida's 2020 off-season retool when Zito took over

That is what I am saying, the standings don't accurately reflect how good the team has been since Boudreau came on, not to mention they've been through a good deal of adversity with the long layoff and being undermanned due to covid

Yeah I've really enjoyed watching them under Boudreau! My whole thing in this thread is just about being open to whatever direction Rutherford and Allvin take us. If Garland is traded it would be strange but the return better be amazing.

It had better be indeed...or else!

Joking aside, I think Garland will be a Canuck for the foreseeable future. There isn't really anything about his game that makes me even remotely consider him being expendable

It will take some time for us to be considered Cuo contenders but I believe they’ll get there in the coming years to where they can emerge as a legitimate team

I guess it all depends what you want. I want to see a Stanley Cup won in Vancouver. This team, despite some quality players is not winning squat. If they have to trade some of their players to build a better future, I'm in. I'm not sure how to explain the value of cap space to you ( and it is incredibly valuable ) if you can't grasp it. Benning had the same blind spot.

And we do have a good amount of cap space in the coming years. And definitely more cap space if able to trade Myers full contract. Also dropping Hamonic would be nice as well I think.

Myers will be a tough move until his final year. Hamonic has so little value IMO and OEL is another that will be tough to trade. These guys will cost retention and/or picks to move which is almost going backwards. Creating cap space without getting assets makes very little sense. The Canucks desperately need two young RD that can play soon. That’s not happening unless they move something out. In the short term cap space allows them to maybe pick up a good player from another cap strapped team. As it currently stands there is no way forward for this team without some significant moves.

Ekman-Larsson is the only guy who I see costing the Canucks anything to move

Hamonic has very little value. Who is taking him without retention?? Maybe, but I don’t see it. Otherwise you are taking an equally bad contract back.

I’d have to agree. It would sort of suck to move OEL. Myers is more than affordable to lose. He’s decent but we need more younger RHD as you said. It would be nice to be rid of Hamonic mostly in my opinion.

Edmonton, Ottawa, Montreal, Winnipeg, heck maybe even Seattle would take him for a small price