What I think is realistic value but you can call me crazy

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Created by: Ross_Johnston

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2022

Published: Feb. 1, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Trying to be as realistic as possible - hate it if you want.

Trades

MTL

Pelletier, Jakob
2022 1st round pick (CGY)
2023 3rd round pick (CGY)

Additional Details:

Pick is lottery protected. Assuming Calgary won't move Coronato and Montreal doesn't want Zary - meet in the middle. Steep price but retention has value.

CGY

Toffoli, Tyler ($2,125,000 retained)
Wideman, Chris

Additional Details:

Full retention for 3 years of Toff. Salary is now 2,125,000 per.

MTL

Nemeth, Patrik
2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
2022 2nd round pick (STL)
2023 3rd round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

NYR clears cap.

NYR

Lehkonen, Artturi

Additional Details:

This is more of an example - it would take an overpayment to move Lehkonen. I'd be quite content if he played his entire career in Montreal.

MTL

Tippett, Owen
2022 6th round pick (CGY)
2023 1st round pick (FLA)

Additional Details:

Maybe I'm crazy, but I genuinely don't see Florida having room for Tippet next year.

FLA

Chiarot, Ben ($1,750,000 retained)
Paquette, Cédric

MTL

2024 4th round pick (COL)

COL

Perreault, Mathieu

MTL

2024 3rd round pick (NSH)

NSH

Kulak, Brett ($925,000 retained)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Tyler Toffoli: $2,125,000 (100%)
Ben Chiarot: $1,750,000 (100%)
Brett Kulak: $925,000 (100%)

Buried

Joel Armia: $2,275,000 ($3,400,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$81,500,000	$63,681,224	$597,561	$2,357,500	$17,818,776

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 3		Tippett, Owen $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW UFA - 1
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Pitlick, Rem $917,831$917,831 LW, RW UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Dauphin, Laurent $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Poehling, Ryan $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2
	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
	Niku, Sami $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Primeau, Cayden $880,833$880,833 G RFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1	Brook, Josh $795,000$795,000 ($32,500$32K) RD UFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Clague, Kale $761,250$761,250 LD/RD RFA - 1
Nemeth, Patrik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
	Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 4
	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 2
	McNiven, Michael $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 4

Feb. 1, 2022 at 1:42 p.m.

michaelost

Fire Trotz

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first 3 are 100% overpays but are somewhat realistic. This deadline gonna have a ton of bidders so I could see a few slight overpayments.

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Feb. 1, 2022 at 1:56 p.m.

Herms17

Pass it to Lucic

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really don't hate any of them honestly.
I think for the most part, all the teams are winners in these trades.

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Feb. 1, 2022 at 1:56 p.m.

soooonk

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Not a bad deal, but Calgary won't need the retention and Pelletier +1st is a bit too steep so they should decline.

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Feb. 1, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.

mokumboi

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The first three aren't realistic at all. But I feel like you already knew that.

Feb. 1, 2022 at 2:04 p.m.

Xqb15a

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Quoting: Herms17

really don't hate any of them honestly.
I think for the most part, all the teams are winners in these trades.

Uh yeah no. These are total wins by MTL. Also COL has zero interest in Perrault.

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Feb. 1, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.

Borocop

Au-revoir Dorion

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toffoli 50% retained is probably around there, big time overvaluation on lehkonen imo, would probably get one of tippett or the first for chairot id be dumbfounded if zito gave up both

Feb. 1, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.

Vermathex

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from NYR point of view take away nemeth and a 2nd and if its just a second and a third for lehkonen i wouldn't be too upset.

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Feb. 1, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.

Ross_Johnston

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Quoting: Borocop

toffoli 50% retained is probably around there, big time overvaluation on lehkonen imo, would probably get one of tippett or the first for chairot id be dumbfounded if zito gave up both

Yeah Lehkonen would have to be an overpayment to move, I was trying to make an example out of him.

Feb. 1, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.

Ross_Johnston

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Quoting: mokumboi

The first three aren't realistic at all. But I feel like you already knew that.

You seem to be the odd man out here but, thanks for your constructive criticism.

Feb. 1, 2022 at 3:49 p.m.

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Ross_Johnston

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Quoting: Herms17

really don't hate any of them honestly.
I think for the most part, all the teams are winners in these trades.

Thanks man it feels good to get some good feedback from an opposing fan for a big trade

Feb. 1, 2022 at 3:50 p.m.

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Ross_Johnston

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Quoting: michaelost

first 3 are 100% overpays but are somewhat realistic. This deadline gonna have a ton of bidders so I could see a few slight overpayments.

Yeah, I took that into consideration. Do I think Toffoli is worth that? No. But TDL and FA day are the two days where GM's drastically overpay

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Feb. 1, 2022 at 4:03 p.m.

#12

mokumboi

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Quoting: Marshallchapman9

You seem to be the odd man out here but, thanks for your constructive criticism.

Ehh what now? Literally every other poster who isn;t a Habs fan (that being Herms17, who you somehow think isn't a Habs fan) is calling some of these overpays or taking pieces out, and especially from the first three.

Feb. 1, 2022 at 5:16 p.m.

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Ross_Johnston

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Quoting: mokumboi

Thanks man you too

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