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Which one is the most realistic and which one makes the most sense?
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VAN
  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Schneider, Braden
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  1. Miller, J.T. ($2,625,000 retained)
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  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Lysell, Fabian
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    Miller, J.T. ($1,575,000 retained)
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        Rossi and Boldy are off the table so... Lambos?
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 8:58 p.m.
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          Greenway is going nowhere. It's weird how on here , certain others who believe a player who was just resigned to multiple years deal will be traded. We didn't sign him to trade him. Also JT Miller under no circumstances is worth three 1st round pick. Sorry, but your gm , and fans can ask, doesn't mean it will happen. Minnesota wouldn't pay that
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 8:58 p.m.
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          None of those would be accepted. But you asked for the most realistic, so I guess I'd have to say Calgary.
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:02 p.m.
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          You can count boston out at that price tag.
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
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          Quoting: mokumboi
          None of those would be accepted. But you asked for the most realistic, so I guess I'd have to say Calgary.


          Quoting: GabrielJ
          Greenway is going nowhere. It's weird how on here , certain others who believe a player who was just resigned to multiple years deal will be traded. We didn't sign him to trade him. Also JT Miller under no circumstances is worth three 1st round pick. Sorry, but your gm , and fans can ask, doesn't mean it will happen. Minnesota wouldn't pay that


          JT's a point per game player with 2 years left on his deal. With 50% retained, you don't think he's worth a high end prospect, a 25th to 32nd first round pick and a top 9 roster player?

          If not, what's he worth?
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:09 p.m.
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          Quoting: eVANder
          JT's a point per game player with 2 years left on his deal. With 50% retained, you don't think he's worth a high end prospect, a 25th to 32nd first round pick and a top 9 roster player?

          If not, what's he worth?


          Quoting: eVANder
          JT's a point per game player with 2 years left on his deal. With 50% retained, you don't think he's worth a high end prospect, a 25th to 32nd first round pick and a top 9 roster player?

          If not, what's he worth?


          Quoting: eVANder
          JT's a point per game player with 2 years left on his deal. With 50% retained, you don't think he's worth a high end prospect, a 25th to 32nd first round pick and a top 9 roster player?

          If not, what's he worth?


          Quoting: eVANder
          JT's a point per game player with 2 years left on his deal. With 50% retained, you don't think he's worth a high end prospect, a 25th to 32nd first round pick and a top 9 roster player?

          If not, what's he worth?


          Jt has 1 year left after this season. 1. 5 exactly because of the remember of this year. Minnesota isn't in any cap trouble this year.Minnesota isn't trading greenway no matter what you think. It's a fantasy to believe a team is trading a player they just signed. Jt Being that player is because of who he plays with.

          You aren't getting an eichel trade pieces from Minnesota.
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:09 p.m.
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          Quoting: eVANder
          JT's a point per game player with 2 years left on his deal. With 50% retained, you don't think he's worth a high end prospect, a 25th to 32nd first round pick and a top 9 roster player?

          If not, what's he worth?


          Ya know, maybe he is worth that to some team out there. But not these teams, and not for these particular packages. They're all easily too much of an ask to those teams. Especially MINN.
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:16 p.m.
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          Ya know, maybe he is worth that to some team out there. But not these teams, and not for these particular packages. They're all easily too much of an ask to those teams. Especially MINN.


          Fair enough on Minny, I get Greenway was just re-signed and he's one of those guy's that has more value than his points would suggest.

          If there's a bidding war and enough teams are seriously interested in him for a cup run, i think the price tag is there. At 50% retained, whoever gets him can easily flip him at the draft if cap future cap space is an issue. Honestly if the Canucks don't get this type of a package than they better wait till the offseason.
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:18 p.m.
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          Quoting: GabrielJ
          Jt has 1 year left after this season. 1. 5 exactly because of the remember of this year. Minnesota isn't in any cap trouble this year.Minnesota isn't trading greenway no matter what you think. It's a fantasy to believe a team is trading a player they just signed. Jt Being that player is because of who he plays with.

          You aren't getting an eichel trade pieces from Minnesota.


          Do we think Buffalo got good value on Eichel though? That was a **** trade for the Sabres. lol
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:22 p.m.
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          Quoting: GabrielJ
          Jt has 1 year left after this season. 1. 5 exactly because of the remember of this year. Minnesota isn't in any cap trouble this year.Minnesota isn't trading greenway no matter what you think. It's a fantasy to believe a team is trading a player they just signed. Jt Being that player is because of who he plays with.

          You aren't getting an eichel trade pieces from Minnesota.


          You act like Miller isn’t a good player when he would instantly become Minnesota’s 2nd best forward
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:22 p.m.
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          Do we think Buffalo got good value on Eichel though? That was a **** trade for the Sabres. lol


          Was it, though? Eichel, who was rather pissy in Buffalo, still has not played for Vegas, because he has a serious injury situation that has not been resolved in a very sensitive part of the body, especially for someone playing a contact sport at the highest level. We're gonna have to wait and see on that one.
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:22 p.m.
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          You act like Miller isn’t a good player when he would instantly become Minnesota’s 2nd best forward


          I don't see him acting like that anywhere.
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.
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          Quoting: mokumboi
          I don't see him acting like that anywhere.


          He said “Jt being that player is because of who he plays with” which to me implies he thinks Miller isn’t very good and gets carried by his linemates. Maybe I’m interpreting it wrong though
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:25 p.m.
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          Quoting: mokumboi
          Was it, though? Eichel, who was rather pissy in Buffalo, still has not played for Vegas, because he has a serious injury situation that has not been resolved in a very sensitive part of the body, especially for someone playing a contact sport at the highest level. We're gonna have to wait and see on that one.


          Quoting: mokumboi
          Was it, though? Eichel, who was rather pissy in Buffalo, still has not played for Vegas, because he has a serious injury situation that has not been resolved in a very sensitive part of the body, especially for someone playing a contact sport at the highest level. We're gonna have to wait and see on that one.


          Yeah, you're right. Miller is healthy and is a GAMER. Clutch performer as well. I'd rather have him than Eichel at this point.
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:26 p.m.
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          Quoting: mv21227
          You act like Miller isn’t a good player when he would instantly become Minnesota’s 2nd best forward


          He actually wouldn't become our 2nd best forward. You are wrong. points aren't everything. Stop believing that a player who was just resigned is getting traded. This is a fantasy that doesn't exist. Also no team , especially Minnesota is giving up three 1st round pick for JT Miller when they didn't fir eichel
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:27 p.m.
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          Quoting: mv21227
          He said “Jt being that player is because of who he plays with” which to me implies he thinks Miller isn’t very good and gets carried by his linemates. Maybe I’m interpreting it wrong though


          You are. Never said JT is bad
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:27 p.m.
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          Avs say hell no. Barron and a 1st for JT. uh...no. I will give you Jost and kaut maybe.
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:29 p.m.
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          Quoting: eVANder
          Do we think Buffalo got good value on Eichel though? That was a **** trade for the Sabres. lol


          GM's are no longer willing to take risks or make herschel Walker trade. GM's are more focused on the future, and not just now like some fans want to believe. Whether it was a good trade or not, that's what the market dictated
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:29 p.m.
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          You can count boston out at that price tag.

          If it was DeBrusk, 1st and a couple prospects that added to Lysell I'd consider it
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:29 p.m.
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          Quoting: GabrielJ
          He actually wouldn't become our 2nd best forward. You are wrong. points aren't everything. Stop believing that a player who was just resigned is getting traded. This is a fantasy that doesn't exist. Also no team , especially Minnesota is giving up three 1st round pick for JT Miller when they didn't fir eichel


          Who apart from Kaprizov would be better? Maybe JEE? Also I know Greenway won’t be traded after just signing an extension, but this isn’t the equivalent to Minnesota giving up 3 1st round picks as Greenway is not worth a 1st
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:32 p.m.
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          Quoting: mv21227
          He said “Jt being that player is because of who he plays with” which to me implies he thinks Miller isn’t very good and gets carried by his linemates. Maybe I’m interpreting it wrong though


          Ahh. I didn't catch that, thought there was some typo there. Okay, well if he was saying that, I don;t agree. Miller is excellent and well-rounded, and any team would love to have him. Just probably not at the prices listed above.
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:33 p.m.
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          Quoting: mv21227
          Who apart from Kaprizov would be better? Maybe JEE? Also I know Greenway won’t be traded after just signing an extension, but this isn’t the equivalent to Minnesota giving up 3 1st round picks as Greenway is not worth a 1st


          Greenway is worth a late 1st easily. GM's have paid for far worse. So yes, you are wrong. Carson lambos alone, is worth a 1st and top prospect considering he was just chosen. 1st round pick, and Jordan greenway, that's actually more than three 1st round pick. Either way, Minnesota isn't paying that price. Neither will alot of teams for a player whose about to become a free agent at next year's end and will be seeking long term contract at high numbers
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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          Quoting: mokumboi
          Ahh. I didn't catch that, thought there was some typo there. Okay, well if he was saying that, I don;t agree. Miller is excellent and well-rounded, and any team would love to have him. Just probably not at the prices listed above.


          My thing I was trying to say is just like Zuccarello, a player's number can be inflated or pushed up by who they are playing with..iE: fiala
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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          Quoting: coal16
          If it was DeBrusk, 1st and a couple prospects that added to Lysell I'd consider it


          Sure. Beecher and someone else.
          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:39 p.m.
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          Quoting: GabrielJ
          My thing I was trying to say is just like Zuccarello, a player's number can be inflated or pushed up by who they are playing with..iE: fiala


          Sure, but Miller has been carrying his linemates this season, not the other way around.
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          Feb. 1, 2022 at 9:41 p.m.
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          Quoting: mokumboi
          Ahh. I didn't catch that, thought there was some typo there. Okay, well if he was saying that, I don;t agree. Miller is excellent and well-rounded, and any team would love to have him. Just probably not at the prices listed above.


          Let's not forget, Taylor Hall (rental) was traded for Nick Merkley, Nate Schnarr, Kevin Bahl and a first rounder (Dawson Mercer). Matt Duchene (UFA -2) was traded for Samuel Girard, Shane Bowers, a first rounder (Bowen Byram), Kamenev a 2nd and a 3rd. lol
           
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