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Created by: sporkknife

Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 4, 2022

Published: Feb. 4, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Been a while since I stuck my neck out there with one of these things. Here's a Canucks deadline assuming we go .500 in the 18 remaining games before said deadline. We open up cap flexibility and get a lot younger while adding the important piece on the back end. I wanted to be minimally berated by Rangers fans so I added too much retention and sacrificed the 1st rounder for a 2nd of which you have 2.

Ritchie for Pearson is an idea I had in the moment, just seems like it could make sense. You'll get much more use out of Pearson but the Canucks don't need the 30+ year old for the next 3 years so we get out from under that since Ritchie's deal expires at season's end.

Halak should be sent to the highest bidder. We just need a pick back for him. Spencer Martin can backup to season's end if need be. A 3rd is high, but Koskinen is highly undesirable. Even if he's looked better of late. He always looks better of late until he doesn't.

I'm least sure about the Predators. I think they looked like they were going into a retool/build but have surprised many including I think themselves this season. I think the Boeser deal helps their scoring on the wing a ton for a good cap hit since he hasn't had the best year. The Canucks open maneuverability with the cap and get some really nice young pieces with a bunch more team controlled contracts.

I'd move Tyler Myers but that requires a gm to make a bit of an error. I don't know who'd make that error.

The team would be worse going down the stretch but honestly that would be a good thing for 2022 draft position. Jirichek, Lambert, Cooley, Nemec, Slafkovsky etc. would all be nice pieces but we'd likely need to be in the top 10 to get any of them

Trades

VAN

Chytil, Filip
Schneider, Braden
2022 2nd round pick (STL)

NYR

Miller, J.T. ($2,000,000 retained)

VAN

Koskinen, Mikko
2023 3rd round pick (EDM)

NSH

Boeser, Brock ($1,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Signs $6x5 million before/upon trade

Buyouts

Braden Holtby: $500,000
Jake Virtanen: $50,000

Retained Salary Transactions

J.T. Miller: $2,000,000 (38.1%)
Brock Boeser: $1,000,000 (17.02%)

Recapture Fees

Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$74,423,992	$648,780	$1,450,000	$7,076,008

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 5	Pettersson, Elias $7,350,000$7,350,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Höglander, Nils $891,667$891,667 ($200,000$200K) LW, RW RFA - 2
Ritchie, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 2	Tomasino, Philip $863,333$863,333 LW, RW RFA - 3
Dickinson, Jason $2,650,000$2,650,000 C, LW UFA - 3		Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 3
Motte, Tyler $1,225,000$1,225,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Chytil, Filip $2,300,000$2,300,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Highmore, Matthew $725,000$725,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Lammikko, Juho $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 6	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD NTC UFA - 3	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 5
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 4
Schenn, Luke $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 2	Schneider, Braden $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 3	Koskinen, Mikko $4,500,000$4,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Dowling, Justin $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Burroughs, Kyle $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Chiasson, Alex $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1		Hamonic, Travis $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2
Hunt, Brad $800,000$800,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Sutter, Brandon $1,125,000$1,125,000 RW, C UFA - 1
		Keeper, Brady $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2
		Brisebois, Guillaume $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1

Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.

Fotiu4U

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Very easy NO from the Rangers.

Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.

Rage44

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Ritchie's deal has another year on it... We would accept long before your realize.

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:20 p.m.

sporkknife

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Quoting: Fotiu4U

Very easy NO from the Rangers.

thanks for the input. what would you do from a rangers perspective? Stand pat at the deadline and hope Shesterkin wins the thing single handedly? Honestly he seems capable of it

Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:21 p.m.

sporkknife

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Quoting: TML_Bias

Ritchie's deal has another year on it... We would accept long before your realize.

ah ok read it wrong. Honestly, if you'd accept, we need to be out from under money given to old players more than we need a contribution from Ritchie, so I think I would too

Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:25 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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Some nice ideas here, and fair evaluations.

I don't think that you're getting enough for Boeser and I doubt that he signs a deal for only $6 million (which is what I think that you're saying).

The other deals look entirely reasonable, although I don't think that NY will be trading Schneider. He could be a Calder Trophy nominee next season.

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:25 p.m.

Fotiu4U

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Quoting: sporkknife

thanks for the input. what would you do from a rangers perspective? Stand pat at the deadline and hope Shesterkin wins the thing single handedly? Honestly he seems capable of it

I don't expect the Rangers to win a cup this year since they have been rebuilding for years now, so I would not sacrifice young players like Schneider who are the future to try to win a few more playoff games. 99% of Ranger fans would have said prior to the season that just making the playoffs would be a success, so I see no reason to increase that expectation now. I am fine with them being buyers at the TDL, but not if that means sacrificing what looks to be a very bright future. Schneider, Laffy, Kakko, Shesty and Miller are simply not available. Nils Lundqvist and Zac Jones are though, along with Kravstov and the 1st round pick, so there are pieces they can move to improve the top 6. If Vancouver can live with Lundqvist, Kravstov and 1st round pick, then they can get younger and better IMO, but if they are stuck on Schneider, then there is no trade to be made. Rangers can go after Smith in Vegas or Kessel or Tofoli to help their top 6 and keep all their top prospects.

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:31 p.m.

sporkknife

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Quoting: Fotiu4U

OK now non sarcastically thank you for the input, I agree with you 100%. If I were a Rangers fan I think I'd be completely in line with your thinking. I think the conversation changed more when Schneider stepped in to replace Fox and looks an absolute stud already. The only issues with your proposal for me are #1 Kravtsov, just, Kravtsov being an issue himself. #2 we have OEL, Hughes, Rathbone already so to add Lundqvist is a bit redundant. Let's say Chytil, Lundqvist and a first? I personally do like Nils alot (maybe more than Schneider as a matter of personal taste). We also need warm bodies on the team if we trade Miller.

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:33 p.m.

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Fair enough on both counts. Fyodor and Tomasino are both 1st round prospects, so it's asking a lot I thought! Boeser has had such a down year and for no apparent reason. He's playing at like a $3.5 million value right now. I think he's better than that but man, I worry about him. His foot speed is also not great, and from what I've heard Rutherford wants to get a lot faster

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 4:09 p.m.

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I don't think we should sell off to this degree. Miller should be our one big move with maybe something minor like Halak. Otherwise keep everyone else and give them an opportunity to build on what they've done in Vancouver with a new coach and a fresh season with a different outlook.

I don't think we should trade Boeser at all. Goal scorers are hard to find, he's tight with our core and he's been one of our better forwards the last two years. I know the contract starting at 7.5M is concerning for a lot of people but that is the going rate for players of his caliber. We're not going to find better use for that money and if we move him we won't be able to replace him for a long time. His wrist is finally holding up and he's gotten past some rough stretches in his personal life, I think we should commit to keeping him here with his friends and allowing him to grow as an original member of our core.

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 4:24 p.m.

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Would definitely do this from the Oilers perspective. Price is reasonable enough for a rental goalie.

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.

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Quoting: sporkknife

I think Chytil, Lundqvist and a 1st round pick is a fair trade for JT. Chytil has room to grow on a team he can get top 6 mins with and Lundqvist has tons on potential. I would love for the Rangers to keep him, but with Schneider, there is just no room for him. I get why a team may not want Kravstov. He has loads of talent but needs to grow up emotionally.

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 5:12 p.m.

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Quoting: rpain

Would definitely do this from the Oilers perspective. Price is reasonable enough for a rental goalie.

I wouldn't. Halak has a bunch of bonus money that will affect next year's cap. Why do you think Vancouver fans include him in every AGM? Let Vancouver take that hit.

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 5:53 p.m.

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Quoting: Canucks33

The concerns that he's gotten over that you mention are exactly why I'm concerned. He is seemingly in the best spit health wise and mentally of his career and this has been one of if not his worst years of performances. I totally get your sentiment and last year he looked back to his rookie self but I just don't know anymore. He's turned from a sure 40 goal scorer into a huge risk with defensive liability and I don't know what to do with him anymore. In my mind Tomasino and Svechkov are really great prospects not to mention that's a huge chunk of cap to commit to a less risky asset

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