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Created by: codykaps

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 15, 2022

Published: Feb. 15, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Mix of moves the Habs are expecting to make at the Trade Deadline (Chiarot & Lehkonen) and this offseason (maybe Petry & maybe Allen). I don't expect the Habs will be able to trade Gallagher.

Drouin is the big trade candidate next season that should return a 2nd or more (50% retained) at the TDL. Allen too if not traded in the offseason (likely for a 2nd or a 3rd+). Byron will have to play well to be considered a TDL candidate but should only cost a late pick.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Harris, Jordan	3	$925,000
Stapley, Brett	3	$750,000
Olofsson, Jacob	2	$750,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Lehkonen, Artturi	3	$3,300,000
Romanov, Alexander	3	$3,000,000
Pezzetta, Michael	2	$800,000
Pitlick, Rem	2	$1,200,000
Primeau, Cayden	2	$925,000
McNiven, Michael	1	$825,000
Montembeault, Samuel	1	$825,000
Schueneman, Corey	1	$800,000
Vejdemo, Lukas	1	$800,000
Clague, Kale	1	$800,000
Brook, Josh	1	$800,000
Belpedio, Louis	1	$800,000
Teasdale, Joël	2	$800,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Chiarot, Ben	4	$3,500,000
Pitlick, Tyler	1	$1,200,000
Dauphin, Laurent	1	$850,000
Stecher, Troy	1	$1,250,000

Trades

MTL

2022 1st round pick (MTL)

ARI

2022 1st round pick (CAR)

MTL

Schneider, Braden
2022 1st round pick (NYR)

NYR

Lehkonen, Artturi
2022 3rd round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

TDL 2022 - (using Coleman > TB as a trade comparable)

MTL

2022 1st round pick (STL)
2022 4th round pick (OTT)

STL

Chiarot, Ben

Additional Details:

TDL 2022 - (reports are Chiarot will return "at least a 1st")

MTL

Bar, Jack [Reserve List]
2023 2nd round pick (DAL)

DAL

Petry, Jeff ($1,250,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Offseason trade - Barr is a 6'2 RHD (fits in system as a need)

MTL

2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
2024 4th round pick (EDM)

EDM

Allen, Jake ($1,250,000 retained)

Additional Details:

(Possible) Offseason trade - should the Oilers strike out on the FA goalie market they may be okay with sending two picks to the Habs for a full season of Allen at a discount

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $1,250,000 (53.33%)
Jake Allen: $1,250,000 (43.48%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$74,802,499	$1,132,500	$1,250,000	$7,697,501

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 3	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Pitlick, Rem $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Poehling, Ryan $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3	Ylönen, Jesse $880,833$880,833 RW, LW RFA - 1
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Pitlick, Tyler $1,200,000$1,200,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Schneider, Braden $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 2	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
Romanov, Alexander $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD RFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Montembeault, Samuel $825,000$825,000 G UFA - 2
Harris, Jordan $925,000$925,000 LD/RD RFA - 1	Stecher, Troy $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 1
Schueneman, Corey $800,000$800,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 4

Feb. 15, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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Any GM giving up a 1st round pick for Chiarot will be fired and you have St.Louis giving up a 1st and a 4th without retention...

NYR aren't giving up Schneider or the 1st alone for that package.

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Feb. 15, 2022 at 2:32 p.m.

DucharmetheDOMinator

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Oof, rangers are not giving schneider AND a 1st

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Feb. 15, 2022 at 2:33 p.m.

Timmah007

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Oilers can’t add Allen without risking skinner next year on waivers which zero chance he would clear.

Feb. 15, 2022 at 2:40 p.m.

codykaps

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Any GM giving up a 1st round pick for Chiarot will be fired and you have St.Louis giving up a 1st and a 4th without retention...

NYR aren't giving up Schneider or the 1st alone for that package.

I mean literally every report out there has Chiarot going for a first. If there are 12+ teams offering up their 1st rounder than someone will likely add in another (small) piece as the difference maker, no? And yes, Habs would definitely retain 50% salary. I kept getting an error when trying to do it.

Feb. 15, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.

codykaps

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

Oof, rangers are not giving schneider AND a 1st

NYR have Miller, Jones, Schneider, Lundkvist who are all 20-22yrs old, offensive defensmen. They're stronger on the right side and locked in with Trouba + Fox long term so you'd have to think Schneider/Lundkvist are more likely the one(s) to move.

Tampa traded Foote (a late first rounder) plus a 1st for Coleman so I think the Habs have to push for similar value -- i.e. 1st + A/B+ prospect. I've added Montreal sending an early 3rd back to make up the difference.

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Feb. 15, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.

Marchy6363

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Any GM giving up a 1st round pick for Chiarot will be fired and you have St.Louis giving up a 1st and a 4th without retention...

NYR aren't giving up Schneider or the 1st alone for that package.

Then 12 gms would be fired… Get over it Chiarot perform at his best in the playoffs…. I know a soft team who can’t win a round that would need it

Feb. 15, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.

DucharmetheDOMinator

v5 Minnesota GM

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Quoting: codykaps

Yeah atleast switch the 1st to a 2nd or kravtsov to make it fair

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Feb. 15, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.

Fotiu4U

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Drury wouldn't even let you finish the offer before he hung up the phone.

Feb. 15, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.

Tennisman142

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Blues GM said he was not going after high price rentals

Feb. 15, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.

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ricochetii

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Quoting: Timmah007

Oilers can’t add Allen without risking skinner next year on waivers which zero chance he would clear.

Waive Smith if necessary. Fair chance he goes unclaimed, but if it's a concern, use the Spezza technique and threaten retirement.

Feb. 15, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.

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Timmah007

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Quoting: ricochetii

Waive Smith if necessary. Fair chance he goes unclaimed, but if it's a concern, use the Spezza technique and threaten retirement.

Zero chance Edmonton does that to smith. Certainly not for Allen smith when healthy is miles better

Feb. 15, 2022 at 3:22 p.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

Oof, rangers are not giving schneider AND a 1st

They are not giving either of those things for Lehko.

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Feb. 15, 2022 at 3:24 p.m.

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ricochetii

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Quoting: Timmah007

Zero chance Edmonton does that to smith. Certainly not for Allen smith when healthy is miles better

Healthy is part of the problem.
Smith: .912 and 2.70 career
Allen: .911 and 2.56 career
I wouldn't say "miles" better.

What I'm proposing is running with 3 goaltenders. Smith is only sent down on paper and when he is up a waiver exempt healthy scratch is sent down. That way Skinner doesn't get overwhelmed if Smith does get injured again.

Feb. 15, 2022 at 3:24 p.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: codykaps

Feel free to share one report with us. And I do mean an actual sourced news report - not some wiggle word could maybe might be I'm hearing rumblings ("rumblings" being some wack Twitter or THW mention they're parroting).

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Feb. 15, 2022 at 3:36 p.m.

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DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: mokumboi

They are not giving either of those things for Lehko.

Schneider, no. 1st, potentially. Lundqvist + Kravtsov

Feb. 15, 2022 at 3:50 p.m.

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Goalie

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Oh dear god

Feb. 15, 2022 at 5:19 p.m.

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boonsy

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Quoting: codykaps

Foote was the 29th overall pick in the first, basically a second rounder. He’s played 6? NHL games in the two years since being traded. Schneider has already played 10 games in his first year as a pro. They’re not comparable.

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