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Some creative ideas for DET

Created by: MadLin27
Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 15, 2022
Published: Feb. 15, 2022
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Detroit can really weaponize their cap space...
I see them being big players for free agents, especially kicking tires on 1-2 year deals where they can overpay for short term.

I also think they are in prime offer sheet position for RFA's in that 2-4mill range.

Thoughts?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
4$4,100,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$7,000,000
Offer Sheets
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Hague, Nicolas$4,100,000
2023 2nd round pick
Trades
CGY
  1. Suter, Pius ($1,250,000 retained)
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (DET)
  3. 2022 5th round pick (DET)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
19$81,500,000$56,848,056$0$3,775,000$24,651,944
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,460,000$1,460,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD
UFA - 8
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
RFA - 3
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1

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Feb. 15, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.
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Wait for Edvinsson, maybe sign one but not both
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
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Why would Detroit retain $1,250,000 on Pius Suter? When Sean Monahan makes $3,000,000 more then Suter, The picks would be going the other way then. Detroit's not retaining while taking on a more expensive contract doesn't work that way.
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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Flames would take that even without Detroit retaining
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 15, 2022 at 4:51 p.m.
Is this the same Sean Monahan who's bein outscored by Pius Suter? Oh and Suter's 2 years younger on a much better contract? Picks are going the wrong way my friend...
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Is this the same Sean Monahan who's bein outscored by Pius Suter? Oh and Suter's 2 years younger on a much better contract? Picks are going the wrong way my friend...


You do realize there is more to value than just the current season. Yeah Monahan has struggled last couple yrs and is 2 yrs older but hes also got 550 more games played, 180 more goals, and 400 more pts. All of those numbers Suter wont reach over the entirety of his nhl career and it is just half way through Monahans if hes able to keep playing til a normal retirement age and injuries dont cut his career short. Every team in the league could have gotten Suter and he ended up going to Detroit which shows there wasnt much interest especially at his price. I dont think its a good trade either way but u are definitely wrong thinking picks should go the other way.
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 5:58 p.m.
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Flames would take that even without Detroit retaining


I agree but Detroit would never offer that. Monahan only has a season left on his contract.
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.
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You do realize there is more to value than just the current season. Yeah Monahan has struggled last couple yrs and is 2 yrs older but hes also got 550 more games played, 180 more goals, and 400 more pts. All of those numbers Suter wont reach over the entirety of his nhl career and it is just half way through Monahans if hes able to keep playing til a normal retirement age and injuries dont cut his career short. Every team in the league could have gotten Suter and he ended up going to Detroit which shows there wasnt much interest especially at his price. I dont think its a good trade either way but u are definitely wrong thinking picks should go the other way.


Suter came to Detroit because of Fabbri and Bertuzzi. Detroit was at the top of his list. I don't know where you heard that or maybe you just made it up either way it's wrong.
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.
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Suter came to Detroit because of Fabbri and Bertuzzi. Detroit was at the top of his list. I don't know where you heard that or maybe you just made it up either way it's wrong.


Didn’t say Detroit wasn’t at the top of his list I said there wasn’t much interest elsewhere, which is the truth.
Feb. 15, 2022 at 6:37 p.m.
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Didn’t say Detroit wasn’t at the top of his list I said there wasn’t much interest elsewhere, which is the truth.


Provide proof or it's just your opinion. Oh and I love how you just blithely skip over Monahan's fall off a cliff production wise as if it's not relevant. Suter just entered the NHL last year, so how are games played or stats from 3 YEARS AGO germane to his value? Kris Draper played over a thousand games does that make him better than Henrik Zetterberg?
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Feb. 15, 2022 at 7:03 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Provide proof or it's just your opinion. Oh and I love how you just blithely skip over Monahan's fall off a cliff production wise as if it's not relevant. Suter just entered the NHL last year, so how are games played or stats from 3 YEARS AGO germane to his value? Kris Draper played over a thousand games does that make him better than Henrik Zetterberg?


Uhhhh did u miss when the hawks didnt even qualify him??? If there was tons of interest elsewhere they coulda have easily traded his rights but they just let him walk. Monahan’s production last two yrs is basically equal to Suter’s. And yes nhl gms do look at past production to determine value, Eichel hasnt played in 2 yrs and its not like his value totally tanked. Look Im not here to argue with a bunch of redwings fans cuz I know u guys gotta be hella depressed, but the original comment was saying that the picks should be going the other way and thats just goofy considering suter was available for pretty much every team in the league if they wanted to go get him.
Feb. 15, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.
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Uhhhh did u miss when the hawks didnt even qualify him??? If there was tons of interest elsewhere they coulda have easily traded his rights but they just let him walk. Monahan’s production last two yrs is basically equal to Suter’s. And yes nhl gms do look at past production to determine value, Eichel hasnt played in 2 yrs and its not like his value totally tanked. Look Im not here to argue with a bunch of redwings fans cuz I know u guys gotta be hella depressed, but the original comment was saying that the picks should be going the other way and thats just goofy considering suter was available for pretty much every team in the league if they wanted to go get him.

Trust me Wings fans are fine. In fact I have ten more reason to be happy than Calgary fans (see how productive that is). Regardless, It's your logic that's flawed and again you've provided no actual proof of what you said. As for Chicago not qualifying him: they were busy ruining their team hoping people would forget their shame. Monahan is older, way more expensive and falling off a cliff offensively. Those are things that GMs will consider. One more time for the cheap seats: the picks would be going the other way.
Feb. 16, 2022 at 12:35 a.m.
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Feb. 16, 2022 at 12:36 a.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Provide proof or it's just your opinion. Oh and I love how you just blithely skip over Monahan's fall off a cliff production wise as if it's not relevant. Suter just entered the NHL last year, so how are games played or stats from 3 YEARS AGO germane to his value? Kris Draper played over a thousand games does that make him better than Henrik Zetterberg?


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I agree but Detroit would never offer that. Monahan only has a season left on his contract.


Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Why would Detroit retain $1,250,000 on Pius Suter? When Sean Monahan makes $3,000,000 more then Suter, The picks would be going the other way then. Detroit's not retaining while taking on a more expensive contract doesn't work that way.


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Is this the same Sean Monahan who's bein outscored by Pius Suter? Oh and Suter's 2 years younger on a much better contract? Picks are going the wrong way my friend...


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Why would Detroit retain $1,250,000 on Pius Suter? When Sean Monahan makes $3,000,000 more then Suter, The picks would be going the other way then. Detroit's not retaining while taking on a more expensive contract doesn't work that way.


The picks are not going the wrong way.
If you don't like the trade that's fine. Monahan needs a change of scenery. He's only 27, and he has #1 C upside.
Suter is a 3C on a competitive team and replying to aedoran: Suter also only has one year on his deal too...
Feb. 16, 2022 at 12:40 a.m.
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Wait for Edvinsson, maybe sign one but not both


Yeah. I wasn't necessarily saying do both.
If Lindholm is available you make him an offer. If not I actually think offer sheets could make sense.
I hate to say it, but Sandin also seems like a prime OS candidate.
Feb. 16, 2022 at 12:46 a.m.
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The picks are not going the wrong way.
If you don't like the trade that's fine. Monahan needs a change of scenery. He's only 27, and he has #1 C upside.
Suter is a 3C on a competitive team and replying to aedoran: Suter also only has one year on his deal too...


So on what planet do you think that Yzerman would retain $1,250,000 on Pius Suter? While taking on Sean Monahan's full contract plus giving up picks, There's noway Yzerman would make that deal. We're taking on a more expensive contract therefore Detroit's not retaining on Suter who's having every bit as good of a year as Monahan. Monahan makes like $3,100,000 more then Suter therefore Detroit shouldn't have to retain on Suter and even if we did you would be owing us picks as well you don't retain and not get compensated for it.
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Feb. 16, 2022 at 12:51 a.m.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
So on what planet do you think that Yzerman would retain $1,250,000 on Pius Suter? While taking on Sean Monahan's full contract plus giving up picks, There's noway Yzerman would make that deal. We're taking on a more expensive contract therefore Detroit's not retaining on Suter who's having every bit as good of a year as Monahan. Monahan makes like $3,100,000 more then Suter therefore Detroit shouldn't have to retain on Suter and even if we did you would be owing us picks as well you don't retain and not get compensated for it.


Ok. The retention can be removed... chill.
Monahan is a more expensive player as he is also a higher upside player.
He seems like someone who could easily turn his career around with a change of scenery. He plays on Calgarys 3rd line now. He's not getting the opportunities anymore
Feb. 16, 2022 at 1:21 a.m.
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The picks are not going the wrong way.
If you don't like the trade that's fine. Monahan needs a change of scenery. He's only 27, and he has #1 C upside.
Suter is a 3C on a competitive team and replying to aedoran: Suter also only has one year on his deal too...


Detroit is happy with Suter. Since they put him between Fabbri and Bertuzzi the Guelph Line has been keeping pace with the 1st line in production. For the first time in a few seasons Detroit has 2 lines scoring on a regular basis. So why mess with it for a player on a steady decline and has 1 season left on his contract.
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Feb. 16, 2022 at 7:30 a.m.
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The picks are not going the wrong way.
If you don't like the trade that's fine. Monahan needs a change of scenery. He's only 27, and he has #1 C upside.
Suter is a 3C on a competitive team and replying to aedoran: Suter also only has one year on his deal too...


Come on dude, 1C upside? There isn't a GM in the entire league that would buy that. Suter is younger, much cheaper and outscoring your 1C while also killing penalties. Oh and just as a kicker Yzerman wins trades. Which is the opposite of what this is...
Feb. 16, 2022 at 9:55 a.m.
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Yeah. I wasn't necessarily saying do both.
If Lindholm is available you make him an offer. If not I actually think offer sheets could make sense.
I hate to say it, but Sandin also seems like a prime OS candidate.


nah we find a way to match Sandin. I would move Muzzin before letting him go. If someone wanted Liljegren though they could OS him most likely
Feb. 16, 2022 at 11:10 p.m.
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Come on dude, 1C upside? There isn't a GM in the entire league that would buy that. Suter is younger, much cheaper and outscoring your 1C while also killing penalties. Oh and just as a kicker Yzerman wins trades. Which is the opposite of what this is...


He was literally a 1C for years.
His decline isn't due to age. He is 27. Its not far fetched at all.
I don't know Suter that well. So if Wings fans value him highly I respect that, but Monahan has upside and could be an excellent pick up for a team in need of a #2 C
Feb. 16, 2022 at 11:12 p.m.
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nah we find a way to match Sandin. I would move Muzzin before letting him go. If someone wanted Liljegren though they could OS him most likely


Maybe. Muzzin has a NTC though so thats unlikely.
I very much doubt it would even happen, but a team could offer Sandin 5 x 5 and Leafs would be pretty much screwed.
 
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