Even if risto had turned it around like you say (he hasnt, hes still awful and the leafs dont want him) you are not recouping a 1st.
It was a terrible trade let him go in ufa, theeafs dont want him

Whatever it is that Philly fans are smoking send some north of the boarder cause that stuff seems amazing...........That's a horrific trade for TO, Risto is terrible

leafs take it. get rid of ritchie, upgrade D and get more depth for pretty much a first and a bottom 6 player. yeah thats a good return

No, they really dont.
Ritchie can stay on the marlies, dermott is better than risto, engvall is a very useful 4th liner and lol a 1st.
Not even close to take in risto and brassard doesnt sweeten the pot because the leafs dont need 3rdiners either

I like how you spelled out the logic of the Giroux trade in particular. Ultimately though and this is just my opinion I think Sakic’s stance is COL would give up a Ranta/Helleson prospect and a 1st but they are reluctant to give up Barron with the questions surrounding Byram’s health.

You have officially raised the flag of "literally any defenceman is better than what we have" camp.

Very reasonable and thanks for the feedback

I don’t think it needs explaining why oilers hang up and refuse to waste time answering any further calls from Philly. Sorry that’s way off

risto would have a bounce back if hes moved period. something clearly isnt going right in philly for him.

dermott is not better than risto. i dont care if risto is having a down season this year. people bounce back. i mean, look at willy

Nothing has been right for him ever. He sucks and always has. He's never been anything but a PP specialist with moderate success and all together sucks defensively

Dermott is mosr certainly better. And risto isnt having a bad season, he's haveing a bad career. Hes 30 years old and has never been good

hes played of buffalo for most of it. go figure

And he was a huge reason they were so bad

Listen Holl is bad. Risto is worse

-Avs trade looks about right. I think Compher and no double retention is more likely and quite frankly better for us, but thats not the important part to focus on

-NRD flat out said today there is a market that'll look to pay either a 1st for Ristolainen at the TDL. Trading Ristolainen to the Leafs on this site is like throwing a grenade in a China shop, but especially with the Ritchie angle I actually see that being a plausible move.

-Don't really see the Edmonton trade being feasible. They're not in a position to give up a mid 1st for depth pieces and I don't think they'd pay to consider Barrie a dump either