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Team: 2021-22 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 16, 2022
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In order of my preference, except the last one, who would be the easy #1 if he wasn't almost certainly just a fantasy delusion. Not sure if this matches up with Army's wishlist - but I'm probably not too far off. Not trying to give exact offers for these guys, just a general ballpark - some things are negotiable.

And yeah, some of the "rumored"/floated guys I'd likely or DEFINITELY pass on: Chych (too expensive to acquire), Chiarot (gag me with a soup ladle), Giordano (I think that fine wine may be corked at this point), Pettersson (too expensive, too flimsy, too busy with the Pens' hopes), Chara (puh-lease).

Oh... and I would absolutely take a healthy Martinez off Vegas' hands, but 1) when do we actually get to see a healthy Martinez? (will we at all? or are they just faking him on LTIR at this point?) & 2) I'm fairly sure they would not go along with the highway robbery it would take for the Blues to move him off their cap sheet.
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STL
  1. Lindholm, Hampus ($1,500,000 retained)
ANA
    '22 1st, Scandella and a mid pick or B prospect (Ducks' choice)

    Will Scandella go along with it? Dunno, but if he does I can give him some great restaurant & beach spot recommendations for Orange County.
    2.
    SEA
    1. 2022 4th round pick (STL)
    2. 2023 2nd round pick (STL)
    3.
    NJD
      Honestly, I'm not totally sold on this option, both because of what it may cost (something in the neighborhood of the LIndholm package? maybe slightly more?) and how what he brings would fit. But it's worth a tire kick.
      4.
      CBJ
        This one's the pipe dream. It's almost certainly never happening, but the Jackets do weird things on occasion and I'd never put a little larceny past Doug Armstrong. But for the record, I'd give more than Lindholm costs for this one. Probably a 1st, a 2nd and a solid prospect or two (something like, say, Alexandrov and/or Ellis). But yeah... pipe dream.
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 6:34 a.m.
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        I think CBJ would accept an offer like that.
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 7:42 a.m.
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        Quoting: pharrow
        I think CBJ would accept an offer like that.


        Really? I kinda have the idea he's pretty much untouchable. I'd absolutely do a 1st, a 2nd (one of them '22, one of them '23) and Ellis right now. And I'd add another B-ish prospect if they also took Scandella back.
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 8:13 a.m.
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        Anaheim likely says no .. no thanks on Scandella
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 8:43 a.m.
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        Quoting: GeneralLandro
        Anaheim likely says no .. no thanks on Scandella


        Anaheim are likely going to have to take money back in any deadline deals they make. Ignore Scandella, Lindholm for a 1st and a 3rd or something half retained isn't *bad* but it's not great
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 8:47 a.m.
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        Anaheim are likely going to have to take money back in any deadline deals they make. Ignore Scandella, Lindholm for a 1st and a 3rd or something half retained isn't *bad* but it's not great


        Money for a year or two isn’t bad but three is a no for me
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 8:50 a.m.
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        Quoting: GeneralLandro
        Money for a year or two isn’t bad but three is a no for me


        It's two years past this season. And I totally understand if Anaheim would say no to taking him, but it is something that would be required to get a Lindholm deal done.

        And just FYI, Scandella is not as bad as some Blues fans make him out to be (many have this thing where there HAS TO BE an irrational scapegoat for every season). He still skates very well and has good puck skills, but has been making too many silly mistakes. He'll go along looking good in a game, and then blow it with a goof. Not sure if this something that is here to stay or if he's just gripping his stick too tightly.
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 8:51 a.m.
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        Soucy would be getable this tdl. Just might have to pay more.
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 8:53 a.m.
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        It's two years past this season. And I totally understand if Anaheim would say no to taking him, but it is something that would be required to get a Lindholm deal done.


        Wouldn’t want him on the books for 23/24 since Zegras Drysdale Terry Comtois are probably going to be real expensive
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 8:53 a.m.
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        Wouldn’t want him on the books for 23/24 since Zegras Drysdale Terry Comtois are probably going to be real expensive


        Fair enough.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 8:54 a.m.
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        Soucy would be getable this tdl. Just might have to pay more.


        Like how much more?
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 8:56 a.m.
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        Quoting: mokumboi
        Really? I kinda have the idea he's pretty much untouchable. I'd absolutely do a 1st, a 2nd (one of them '22, one of them '23) and Ellis right now. And I'd add another B-ish prospect if they also took Scandella back.


        no i totally disagree that he's "untouchable" and here is why.
        CBJ has a hard time retaining free agents. They had a chance to lock him in, they took short term and low money. They are a rebuilding team, lots of young players. While he probably would make life easier for them, fact is, I'm not sure he fits their window at this point. I think he knows that and they do to. So I'm not sure he'd stick around after next season. So if I got a solid offer, I'd take it. I'm sure they would to.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 9:00 a.m.
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        Quoting: mokumboi
        Like how much more?


        could be 3rd round this year and B prospect. Has another controllable year after this season.
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.
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        no i totally disagree that he's "untouchable" and here is why.
        CBJ has a hard time retaining free agents. They had a chance to lock him in, they took short term and low money. They are a rebuilding team, lots of young players. While he probably would make life easier for them, fact is, I'm not sure he fits their window at this point. I think he knows that and they do to. So I'm not sure he'd stick around after next season. So if I got a solid offer, I'd take it. I'm sure they would to.



        Hmm. Interesting.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 9:16 a.m.
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        could be 3rd round this year and B prospect. Has another controllable year after this season.


        Okay, what position(s) is/are most preferable for this prospect?
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.
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        I think a Graves deal at this time is unlikely as his term (through 2022-23) fits nicely as a bridge to when we expect Luke Hughes and Shakir Mukhamadullin to arrive. But with Siegenthaler’s emergence this year, and with Bahl and Okhotiuk playing well in AHL, it could be possible (at least more possible than it was a few months ago).

        The price is hard to say. We got him at what was probably a discount (Maltsev and 2nd) because of the expansion draft. Our GM has said any moves he makes at deadline would be to bring in players of Jack and Nico’s age (20, 22) and not older veterans or draft picks. He has said he is not prioritizing one position over another (although he ought to be looking for a goalie short-term since we have had so many injuries and Mr. Gillies has had a rough go).

        Not sure who the best fit from St Louis would be, but would probably be a younger player (age 20-22) with late 1st round value (regardless of where he was actually drafted) that would fit with NJD.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 9:49 a.m.
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        Quoting: mokumboi
        Really? I kinda have the idea he's pretty much untouchable. I'd absolutely do a 1st, a 2nd (one of them '22, one of them '23) and Ellis right now. And I'd add another B-ish prospect if they also took Scandella back.


        I wouldn't say Gavvy is untouchable - it's just going to take a lot for CBJ to move him. A 1st, a 2nd, and a high prospect are, IMO, enough.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 10:03 a.m.
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        I think a Graves deal at this time is unlikely as his term (through 2022-23) fits nicely as a bridge to when we expect Luke Hughes and Shakir Mukhamadullin to arrive. But with Siegenthaler’s emergence this year, and with Bahl and Okhotiuk playing well in AHL, it could be possible (at least more possible than it was a few months ago).

        The price is hard to say. We got him at what was probably a discount (Maltsev and 2nd) because of the expansion draft. Our GM has said any moves he makes at deadline would be to bring in players of Jack and Nico’s age (20, 22) and not older veterans or draft picks. He has said he is not prioritizing one position over another (although he ought to be looking for a goalie short-term since we have had so many injuries and Mr. Gillies has had a rough go).

        Not sure who the best fit from St Louis would be, but would probably be a younger player (age 20-22) with late 1st round value (regardless of where he was actually drafted) that would fit with NJD.



        Heh. I feel like you're talking about Hofer without actually talking about Hofer.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 11:29 a.m.
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        Heh. I feel like you're talking about Hofer without actually talking about Hofer.


        Not a bad idea. Think he could battle Blackwood for #1 duties as early as next year?
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 11:30 a.m.
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        Doesn't Scandella have to go in any deal for cap purposes? And if your aversion to Chyckrun is overpayment, wouldn't a 1st and 2nd plus a top prospect for Gavrikov be overpaying as well? It might not be, I don't know much about him. TBH don't know much about Graves, Lindholm or Soucy. I just want someone that is physical around the net, maybe gavrikov fits that mold the best.
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        Feb. 16, 2022 at 2:51 p.m.
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        Not a bad idea. Think he could battle Blackwood for #1 duties as early as next year?


        Hmm. I honestly think he'd need another half season in the A. But hey, you just never know with Blues goalies.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.
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        Quoting: cschmid_194
        Doesn't Scandella have to go in any deal for cap purposes?

        And if your aversion to Chyckrun is overpayment,

        wouldn't a 1st and 2nd plus a top prospect for Gavrikov be overpaying as well? It might not be, I don't know much about him. TBH don't know much about Graves, Lindholm or Soucy. I just want someone that is physical around the net, maybe gavrikov fits that mold the best.


        1- In any deal? No, not necessarily. Obviously it would be super swell.

        2- I didn;t say anything about overpayment for Chych. It's just that he is going to easily cost the most in young talent capital. A bit rich for my blood. Maybe Army feels another way and Chych's price drops a little because no one is biting for a guy who has had a down year. If the price comes down a bit, sure, let's go get him. Because as expensive as he is in trade costs, his actual salary/cap hit is easier to find room for than Lindholm's.

        3- I did not include any top prospect. I suggested B/B- prospects. But yes, it's a little bit of an overpay for Gavrikov, but with his low cap hit and what I think would be a perfect fit with Colt, I'd be alright with it.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 3:20 p.m.
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        Hmm. I honestly think he'd need another half season in the A. But hey, you just never know with Blues goalies.


        Last one we got (Gillies) has been dreadful unfortunately.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.
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        Quoting: NHLfan10506
        Last one we got (Gillies) has been dreadful unfortunately.


        Well, Gillies is a career minor leaguer who's almost 30. Emergency use only.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.
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        Well, Gillies is a career minor leaguer who's almost 30. Emergency use only.


        It was an emergency. He can go back to ECHL now.
        Feb. 16, 2022 at 5:35 p.m.
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        It was an emergency. He can go back to ECHL now.


        Yeah, he was not a Blues goalie anyway. We got him from you on an emergency basis first. wink
         
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