Pens accept.

Yeah, the Hawks where dumb when they only took a 2nd for johnson, especially considering they gave away a LTIr contract too.

Sabres are zero interest in repeating the Hawks mistake. Keep johnson and the last pick in the 2nd round, we'll take our 10 million in cap space over the next two years.

You wouldn't free up 10.5M cause there would be a recapture penalty of $3.6M. Still would free up almost $7m though.

He'd be LTIR. Same thing would happen with Toews as to what happened with Seabrook and Shaw.

not gonna happen. Players just LTIR their career's out and don't officially retire. Look at Seabrook, Horton, Clarkson, Weber, the list goes on

The Hawls got a 2nd round pick for someone that's on LTIR...just like Seabs. Not sure how getting a 2nd round pick for the same outcome (thus far) isn't a win.

Johnson was a full participant yesterday. Honestly hope to see him back in the mix soon. I think his loss hurt the hawks more than people realize. The revolving door of borgstrom/entwistle/lafferty/slavin/hardman has not been good in that middle 6 RW spot

What are you talking about? Johnson isnt on LTIR, and he makes 5 million a year. That is definitely a player that cost more than a 2nd to get rid of (one of, if not, the last 2nd in the draft), sorry the hawks werent thinking when they did the trade, don't expect another team to return the favor.

no way, his QO does not match the penguins issues.

However, if we are trading with CHI they should send PIT Kane. Especially if JT retires.
PIT can get what's left out of him and putting him on Malkin's line would be great.
CHI can retain 50%, we'll send them Kap and a 1st.
CHI fans get the joy of watching him reach another cup with PIT instead of rotting away in CHI. Like he has the last few years.

He's 100% on LTIR and just had disk replacement surgery. Ya know...the surgery other NHL teams wouldn't approve for Eichel. We'll see what happens.

Fair, I thought meaning he would officially announce his retirement.

Pens don't have the assets for Kane. I wouldn't be opposed to it IF Kane asked for a trade, but I just don't see what the Pens can offer that will beat the other teams that would be in on Kane. Best pens can do is what Poulin and a 1st? I personally wouldn't have much interest in JPO at this point and PIT doesn't have many other prospects. We don't need Blomqvist, Comesso is better. What else does PIT have?

I'm not to debate what other teams would offer for Kane.
But I would say, with only 1 year left, it's probably not what you think you're getting.
If you wanted that package, you should have moved him a long time ago.
As of now, he'll be 34 with 1 year left on that deal and the numbers have taken a serious drop off the last 2 years.

Well like you said, lets just not argue it. I think Kane brings in more than Poulin and a 1st, and if don't then lets agree to disagree. The "serius drop off" you're talking about is still 112 points in 101 games. Like come on man. If you want to troll just come out and say that.

for the record, the serious drop off I'm referring to is going from .47 gpg.
to .26 gpg the last two year.

Lets be clear, he carried the hawks netting goals for a long time.
yeah the points maybe the same as say 2018-19, but he's not netting 40 goals, there is a huge drop off there. goals are worth a lot more than apples, we can agree on that can't we?

He was not LTIR when you acquired him, he is not done playing. He had surgery. And just like eichel is coming back.

As i said, sorry the Hawks did a bone head move, don't expect other teams to repeat it, false equivalence.

As I said, he's currently LTIR....aka You're wrong. Period. end of story. He's on LTIR. You can't tell me he's not...he is! Can he come back? Of course he's going to try. Why wouldn't he? Does that me his replaced disk holds up? No one knows. It's never been done before and why the Sabres refused to let Eichel get the surgery. Seabrook had a hip replacement and he just called it quits.

Lmao. No. I'm not. End of story lol. No wonder you're lost, you're reading the wrong book

What you fail to comprehend is Seabrook was an asset. Yes he is on ltir, but he is actually retired. So its free money for Tampa.

Johnson sucks. Makes 5 mil for two more years, and is going to play those two years. He isn't an asset, he is deductible. I'm sorry you fail to comprehend the benefit of LTIR and how johnson doesn't fit that roll.

You keep telling yourself it's only going to cost a 2nd to rid yourself of that contract.

Chicago did the two of the three dumbest trades this off-season. I reckon you have Stockholm syndrome by now.

You’re living in a fantasy world if u think Kane gets traded for JUST that- especially with 50% retained