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Created by: BleedingEdge
Team: 2021-22 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 20, 2022
Published: Feb. 20, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Avs gut the future to win now

Halak = goalie insurance against Hamburglar/Hammon 3.0
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Chiarot, Ben ($1,750,000 retained)
MTL
  1. Bowers, Shane
  2. Murray, Ryan
  3. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Murray = Cap Reasons
2.
COL
  1. Copp, Andrew ($1,820,000 retained)
  2. Stastny, Paul ($1,875,000 retained)
WPG
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Compher, J.T.
  3. Kaut, Martin
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (COL)
  5. 2023 5th round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Compher = Cap Reasons
3.
COL
  1. Halák, Jaroslav ($750,000 retained)
VAN
  1. Wingerli, Andreas
  2. 2024 4th round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Goalie Insurance
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,463,963$1,741,463$4,850,000$3,036,037
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$1,820,000$1,820,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$725,000$725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,075,000$1,075,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$0$0
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000 (Performance Bonus$1,500,000$2M)
G
NMC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 20, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.
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Your goalie insurance is going to cost more than that.
Feb. 20, 2022 at 11:19 p.m.
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Quoting: audiodave
Your goalie insurance is going to cost more than that.


I forgot to include Olausson for the 36-year-old net minder with an .899 SV%
Feb. 20, 2022 at 11:24 p.m.
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Quoting: BleedingEdge
I forgot to include Olausson for the 36-year-old net minder with an .899 SV%


Or maybe just make a reasonable offer. A 4th round pick 2 years away and a prospect who will never likely play in the NHL isn't a reasonable offer. A '22 3rd would probably get you Halak.
Feb. 20, 2022 at 11:43 p.m.
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avs dont do anything close to those trades with those values, everyone is easily declined by sakic
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:39 a.m.
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Quoting: audiodave
Or maybe just make a reasonable offer. A 4th round pick 2 years away and a prospect who will never likely play in the NHL isn't a reasonable offer. A '22 3rd would probably get you Halak.


Why would COL pay a 3rd for a 3rd string goalie with a .899 sv%... Look at Dubnyk, Kinkaid, Johansson, etc trades as comparables. Youd be lucky to get this offer tbh
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:44 a.m.
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Im not a fan of the MTL trade. If COL gives up a first they should be adding a significant piece (Giroux/Pavelski/Hertl/etc), not Ben Chiarot

I like Stastny and Copp but I dont think we need both. Stastny with retention is probably worth a 2nd alone, Copp would be more expensive and im not sure if he'd be worth it unless he extends

Goalie trade is meh. There are tons of 3rd string guys who could be had for less than that. And if Kuemper + Francouz are both injured then the Avs are done anyway. A 36 year old Halak isnt going to get the Avs very far
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 5:39 a.m.
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No, no and no. That's the simple answer.
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 9:40 a.m.
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Murray is better than Chiarot. Simple so why in the hell would COL add a 1st and Bowers for the pleasure of watching forwards skate around Chiarot.

Holy over pay Batman on WPG trade. I mean I like Copp and Statsny but not enough to include Barron in. The thought process on CF is fascinating that people think Compher is a cap dump. The guy is a solid versatile player, with a year remaining.

Sub .900 3rd goalies usually don’t take more than a 5th rd pick to acquire, plus give their druthers COL would like that guy to be waiver exempt.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 9:41 a.m.
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Quoting: audiodave
Or maybe just make a reasonable offer. A 4th round pick 2 years away and a prospect who will never likely play in the NHL isn't a reasonable offer. A '22 3rd would probably get you Halak.


Dubnyk and a 7th went for a 5th and Pateryn last year.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 9:43 a.m.
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Im not a fan of the MTL trade. If COL gives up a first they should be adding a significant piece (Giroux/Pavelski/Hertl/etc), not Ben Chiarot

I like Stastny and Copp but I dont think we need both. Stastny with retention is probably worth a 2nd alone, Copp would be more expensive and im not sure if he'd be worth it unless he extends

Goalie trade is meh. There are tons of 3rd string guys who could be had for less than that. And if Kuemper + Francouz are both injured then the Avs are done anyway. A 36 year old Halak isnt going to get the Avs very far


I am thinking Copp may be a target this off-season with Burakovsky/Kadri/Nichushkin as pending UFA's. So in this fantasy trade, I would hope for an extension.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 9:53 a.m.
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Murray is better than Chiarot. Simple so why in the hell would COL add a 1st and Bowers for the pleasure of watching forwards skate around Chiarot.


Murray is terrible, there's a reason he's been healthy scratched numerous times.

Quoting: Xqb15a
Holy over pay Batman on WPG trade. I mean I like Copp and Statsny but not enough to include Barron in. The thought process on CF is fascinating that people think Compher is a cap dump. The guy is a solid versatile player, with a year remaining.


Multiple years of being terrible isn't enough to convince you that Compher is a cap dump? Fascinating.

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Sub .900 3rd goalies usually don’t take more than a 5th rd pick to acquire, plus give their druthers COL would like that guy to be waiver exempt.


A 4th vs a 5th will cost the Avs down the road. shakes head
Feb. 21, 2022 at 11:57 a.m.
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Bit of an overpayment for Chiarot, I also don't think he's a good fit on Colorado as their top 6 is already insanely good.
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 3:15 p.m.
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Murray is terrible, there's a reason he's been healthy scratched numerous times.



Multiple years of being terrible isn't enough to convince you that Compher is a cap dump? Fascinating.



A 4th vs a 5th will cost the Avs down the road. shakes head



Murray has been scratched multiple times, but he is still better than Chiarot. Chiarot SUCKS. I mean sucks. Can’t skate, can’t pass but he can cross check. Watch the guy play, he sucks.

Multiple years of being bad? When was that? The fact you think Chiarot is worth a first and Compher is a cap dump I would reevaluate how you view hockey players. Compher is a versatile middle 6 guy that can play center and wing can play special teams and up in a pinch. Like literally would love to know how you came to the determination that guy who has produced at a 30pt rate his whole career is a cap dump.

Because Halak is the difference in a cup. You my friend are hilarious.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:44 p.m.
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Murray has been scratched multiple times, but he is still better than Chiarot. Chiarot SUCKS. I mean sucks. Can’t skate, can’t pass but he can cross check. Watch the guy play, he sucks.


Last time I checked, Montreal went to the cup finals last year playing Chiarot over 25 minutes per night. Was he elevated by Shea Weber? Hell yes. But he still logged huge minutes on a team that had success.

Murray has now been healthy scratched four of the last six games. Jared Bednar has literally looked at his line-up card and said to himself "Kurtis MacDermid gives us the best chance to win" four times out of the last six. Murray will be lucky to get a 1-year deal this summer; he's probably going to sign a PTO.

Quoting: Xqb15a
Multiple years of being bad? When was that? The fact you think Chiarot is worth a first and Compher is a cap dump I would reevaluate how you view hockey players. Compher is a versatile middle 6 guy that can play center and wing can play special teams and up in a pinch. Like literally would love to know how you came to the determination that guy who has produced at a 30pt rate his whole career is a cap dump.


The fact that you think Chiarot won't return a 1st round pick shows how out of touch with reality you are. Nick Foligno, Kyle Palmieri, and David Savard returned 1st rounders last year; all were old (30+), pending UFA's, and having bad seasons on bad teams.

Compher is a cap dump because he's paid way more ($3.5) than he's worth. Why do you think he wasn't protected in the expansion draft? Yeah, he has 17 points in 38 games. 11 of those points came in the first 15 games, meaning he's on another monumentally long cold streak (read: he's bad). It reminds me of last year when he finished with 10 goals and 18 points in 48 games. He had four goals the last three games of the year, including a hattrick in a meaningless game against the Kings. In other words, he had a terrible season that was partially upgraded to mediocre thanks to a three game outburst.

Quoting: Xqb15a
Because Halak is the difference in a cup. You my friend are hilarious.


Halak has won a playoff series in recent memory (2020). Guess how many playoff series Annunen and Miska have won? And if you think it won't come to that, let me refresh your memory about the 2018 (Hammond) and 2020 (Hutchinson) post-seasons. Fortunately, Kuemper and Francouz are both extremely durable... oh wait.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:33 p.m.
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So you think what a guy did last year in the Covid Cup should count more than his utter and complete disaster of a season. Do you think teams don’t have analytic departments? Do you know that the Avs are one of the teams that most heavily rely on them?

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He wasn’t protected in the expansion draft? That’s what you’re going with? And so games played last year at the end of the season don’t count? So tell me why Bednar when there is an injury regularly slides him into the top 6? What do you think bottom 6 forwards do?

Who cares about a 3rd goalie, but go ahead think the Avs do something beyond a 6th rd pick, because if you have the bad luck of losing your top 2 goalies you’re not winning anything. You trying to justify it is hilarious.

Go back to rooting for MTL because nobody outside of there thinks Chiarot yields a 1st.
Feb. 22, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 5:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
So you think what a guy did last year in the Covid Cup should count more than his utter and complete disaster of a season. Do you think teams don’t have analytic departments? Do you know that the Avs are one of the teams that most heavily rely on them?

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You might find this hard to believe, but when you take a #4-5 defenseman like Chiarot, put him on a terrible team, and play him way too many minutes (23:19), there's a good chance he's going to struggle.

Quoting: Xqb15a
He wasn’t protected in the expansion draft? That’s what you’re going with? And so games played last year at the end of the season don’t count? So tell me why Bednar when there is an injury regularly slides him into the top 6? What do you think bottom 6 forwards do?


Considering Colorado exposed Compher in favor of Jost and O'Connor, yeah, I'm just going to go out on a limb and say he's not held in the highest regard.

Compher usually slides in the top-6 because Bednar's other choices are usually Jost and O'Connor. It always works out so well too; Compher was great in the Vegas series last year.

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Who cares about a 3rd goalie, but go ahead think the Avs do something beyond a 6th rd pick, because if you have the bad luck of losing your top 2 goalies you’re not winning anything. You trying to justify it is hilarious.


Colorado almost beat Dallas with Hutchinson, an AHLer, in net. You keep saying it doesn't matter, but Francouz just missed a year and a half with various lower body injuries.

I know you have a love affair with Colorado's 4th round pick, and why shouldn't you? They've obviously had a lot of success drafting in the 4th round, just look at... umm... does Mironov count? How about Geesten? Brad Malone has played a solid 199 career games! Maybe they'll hit on the next Tom Gilbert, it's been 20 years, they're overdue!

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Go back to rooting for MTL because nobody outside of there thinks Chiarot yields a 1st.


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Feb. 22, 2022 at 5:34 p.m.
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You posted a JFresh player card! Good for you, it only took you two tries!
Mar. 16, 2022 at 10:43 p.m.
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So you think what a guy did last year in the Covid Cup should count more than his utter and complete disaster of a season. Do you think teams don’t have analytic departments? Do you know that the Avs are one of the teams that most heavily rely on them?

bDobGYKyTWrfaoZP9

He wasn’t protected in the expansion draft? That’s what you’re going with? And so games played last year at the end of the season don’t count? So tell me why Bednar when there is an injury regularly slides him into the top 6? What do you think bottom 6 forwards do?

Who cares about a 3rd goalie, but go ahead think the Avs do something beyond a 6th rd pick, because if you have the bad luck of losing your top 2 goalies you’re not winning anything. You trying to justify it is hilarious.

Go back to rooting for MTL because nobody outside of there thinks Chiarot yields a 1st.



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Mar. 17, 2022 at 5:34 a.m.
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Quoting: BleedingEdge

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MTL did good, FLA stupid especially with no lottery protection, but good on MTL. Congratulations
 
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