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Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:42 p.m.
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Gee, glad the Rangers don't have to adhere to same rules the other teams have to.
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:44 p.m.
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Kaprizov's best friend, role model and safety nets isn't getting traded. Wild aren't going to choose boldy and fiala line over Kaprizov and Zuccarello. You don't risk doing anything to make a player of Kaprizov caliber worse or unhappy
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:45 p.m.
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Gee, glad the Rangers don't have to adhere to same rules the other teams have to.


Do they have cap issues?
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:46 p.m.
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Kaprizov's best friend, role model and safety nets isn't getting traded. Wild aren't going to choose boldy and fiala line over Kaprizov and Zuccarello. You don't risk doing anything to make a player of Kaprizov caliber worse or unhappy


Im taking the 26 Y/O over the 34 Y/O every day of the week.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:47 p.m.
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Do they have cap issues?


Most teams do, especially teams that Zucc would waive his NTC for. Yes Rangers have big cap issues next season. Zibs and Fox alone are getting 14m in raises.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.
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Im taking the 26 Y/O over the 34 Y/O every day of the week.


Well wild are going to make a business decision to keep Kaprizov happy, and not take away Zuccarello from him. They aren't going to put fiala before him. It's always been that way since kaprizov came on . When it's come to players like kaprizov and him wanting to stay long term, you do whatever is needed to make him happy
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.
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Most teams do, especially teams that Zucc would waive his NTC for. Yes Rangers have big cap issues next season. Zibs and Fox alone are getting 14m in raises.


His NT is 10 teams, under the assumption he would go back to NY, so wouldn't be blocked on there, but yeah, didn't realize their cap dilemma. Could be any team really. PHI potentially if they want to do a quick turn vs full on rebuild.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.
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Well wild are going to make a business decision to keep Kaprizov happy, and not take away Zuccarello from him. They aren't going to put fiala before him. It's always been that way since kaprizov came on . When it's come to players like kaprizov and him wanting to stay long term, you do whatever is needed to make him happy


Well Kaprizov isn't going anywhere, thats clear with his deal, so wrong there.

Your other point about business decisions to keep people happy, why do you think the wild have $13.4M in dead cap over the next 3 years, GMBG doesnt give a F about your feelings, if its right for the team long term, he is going to do it. Theres not an argument there, he literally put the team into cap hell to do what was right for the team long-term, there's no arguing it.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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It doesn't matter if you trade Fiala or Zucc. The FWD group goes back to what it has been before Boldy was called up: 1 scoring line, 1 def line, 1 4th line, and 1 guy trying to make a line of junk work.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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Well wild are going to make a business decision to keep Kaprizov happy, and not take away Zuccarello from him. They aren't going to put fiala before him. It's always been that way since kaprizov came on . When it's come to players like kaprizov and him wanting to stay long term, you do whatever is needed to make him happy


Also, all what, year and 4 months of him "coming on", what have they done? Sign him to a contract? Thats it, thats all.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:53 p.m.
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It doesn't matter if you trade Fiala or Zucc. The FWD group goes back to what it has been before Boldy was called up: 1 scoring line, 1 def line, 1 4th line, and 1 guy trying to make a line of junk work.


It's tough, but makes more sense to keep the 26Y/O scorer than it does the 34 Y/O playmaker IMO
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
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the wild are gonna let go of their depth guy first before trading their first line players i feel. Dumba, greenway and foligno are gonna be gone before zucc i believe.
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His NT is 10 teams, under the assumption he would go back to NY, so wouldn't be blocked on there, but yeah, didn't realize their cap dilemma. Could be any team really. PHI potentially if they want to do a quick turn vs full on rebuild.


But then you get into the situation where a team would rathe spend 6m on a UFA and keep their picks. Right now in a cap strapped league, Zucc doesn't have good trade value, compared to his current playing value. A signed younger Fiala, provides much better value for both Minni and his new team (if he's traded)
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Well Kaprizov isn't going anywhere, thats clear with his deal, so wrong there.

Your other point about business decisions to keep people happy, why do you think the wild have $13.4M in dead cap over the next 3 years, GMBG doesnt give a F about your feelings, if its right for the team long term, he is going to do it. Theres not an argument there, he literally put the team into cap hell to do what was right for the team long-term, there's no arguing it.


Kaprizov has 4 years left then he can bolt. Minnesota has no other winger ready . So either way boldy will move up to play with Kaprizov and fiala once again will be left alone. You can't actually believe wild are going to ignore their superstar and make him unhappy? Fiala has always been 2nd fiddle to Kaprizov.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.
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Kaprizov has 4 years left then he can bolt. Minnesota has no other winger ready . So either way boldy will move up to play with Kaprizov and fiala once again will be left alone. You can't actually believe wild are going to ignore their superstar and make him unhappy? Fiala has always been 2nd fiddle to Kaprizov.


So you shove Fiala out the door is the answer, every team will know they can't resign him, his value plummets. Zuccarello will be 39 years old THIRTY NINE when Kaprizov's deal is over, you think he's really still going to be here and or in the league?
Feb. 21, 2022 at 12:59 p.m.
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But then you get into the situation where a team would rathe spend 6m on a UFA and keep their picks. Right now in a cap strapped league, Zucc doesn't have good trade value, compared to his current playing value. A signed younger Fiala, provides much better value for both Minni and his new team (if he's traded)


I wasn't entirely sure what they would get, kinda based it off Giroux's asking price as they are somewhat similar somewhat different, if a team wants term, they have it and he's cheaper. Can't play C but there's definitely some debate as to whether G can, I think he can but some don't, and think he's really just a face-off guy who plays more of a winger role whence the puck is dropped. Would be interesting if a team would be interested if you routed some of his money through like SEA or AZ who have plenty of space to get assets with.
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the wild are gonna let go of their depth guy first before trading their first line players i feel. Dumba, greenway and foligno are gonna be gone before zucc i believe.


Greenway and especially foligno is absolutely not going anywhere soon. He's the heart and soul of this team. Greenway wasn't resigned to be traded. Wild are absolutely keeping Joel Eriksson ek, foligno and Greenway line together

As for dumba: this is is what our gm said when naming him alternate captain: I did so in part to reassure dumba about his future in Minnesota. The way head Coach also talks about dumba, I don't see him going anywhere. It's likely going to be fiala. As there's been no reports whatsoever there has been any contract talk and Guerin almost traded him past summer because of what he was asking
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
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Greenway and especially foligno is absolutely not going anywhere soon. He's the heart and soul of this team. Greenway wasn't resigned to be traded. Wild are absolutely keeping Joel Eriksson ek, foligno and Greenway line together

As for dumba: this is is what our gm said when naming him alternate captain: I did so in part to reassure dumba about his future in Minnesota. The way head Coach also talks about dumba, I don't see him going anywhere. It's likely going to be fiala. As there's been no reports whatsoever there has been any contract talk and Guerin almost traded him past summer because of what he was asking


I would like a source of Fiala almost being traded, because that's absolutely false.
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 1:03 p.m.
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I would like a source of Fiala almost being traded, because that's absolutely false.


Russo who reported this on one of his podcast that Guerin became impatient and angered by Fiala's ask and that he started looking to trade him. Much like that Minnesota player who Guerin gave away to Toronto this summer. There's a reason wild took the route of taking Fiala's to arbitration
Feb. 21, 2022 at 1:06 p.m.
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Russo who reported this on one of his podcast that Guerin became impatient and angered by Fiala's ask and that he started looking to trade him. Much like that Minnesota player who Guerin gave away to Toronto this summer. There's a reason wild took the route of taking Fiala's to arbitration


Link it. Because it wasn’t on straight from the source or any athletic articles he wrote.
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 1:06 p.m.
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Russo who reported this on one of his podcast that Guerin became impatient and angered by Fiala's ask and that he started looking to trade him. Much like that Minnesota player who Guerin gave away to Toronto this summer. There's a reason wild took the route of taking Fiala's to arbitration


Also, not sure if you’re aware or not, they did not sign an arbitration deal.
Feb. 21, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.
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It's tough, but makes more sense to keep the 26Y/O scorer than it does the 34 Y/O playmaker IMO


It all depends on the money. Age isn't a big factor here. MN is playing with a $67-$69m useable cap for the next 3 years. They basically need to put together a competitive cap floor team.

Players/agents know their value. Fiala has been underpaid the last 3 years. It's time for him to chase a big payday. MN just isn't the team that can give out another big payday.

Zucc is unmovable until July 1st. Other teams will sign UFAs instead of trading for a player as that point in the offseason. Zucc also has 0 incentive to waive him NMC before July 1st to help facilitate a draft day trade.
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 1:09 p.m.
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It all depends on the money. Age isn't a big factor here. MN is playing with a $67-$69m useable cap for the next 3 years. They basically need to put together a competitive cap floor team.

Players/agents know their value. Fiala has been underpaid the last 3 years. It's time for him to chase a big payday. MN just isn't the team that can give out another big payday.

Zucc is unmovable until July 1st. Other teams will sign UFAs instead of trading for a player as that point in the offseason. Zucc also has 0 incentive to waive him NMC before July 1st to help facilitate a draft day trade.


I personally think age would have a factor, but that’s an opinion, definitely not fact.

The only incentive I see for zucc waiving is him getting to choose where he goes if they basically tell him you’re out July 1
Feb. 21, 2022 at 1:12 p.m.
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Also, not sure if you’re aware or not, they did not sign an arbitration deal.


Guerin took him to arbitration and they came to agreement before. It was the team who filed for arbitration
Feb. 21, 2022 at 1:13 p.m.
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Link it. Because it wasn’t on straight from the source or any athletic articles he wrote.


Go listen to his podcasts. I am not going back to listen to every episode to find which one. But you can tweet at Russo and ask him
 
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